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Re:Sweden drops Julian Assange rape investigation by perseusprime11 on Friday May 19, 2017 @10:58AM (#14376271)
Weren't the charges politically motivated? The story was too hard to believe. Does anybody have more details?
Re:Sweden drops Julian Assange rape investigation by panglott on Friday May 19, 2017 @12:43PM (#14377323)
That was Assange's claim, but there are two women in Sweden who say that he sexually victimized them. The details of their claims have been out for a while: IIRC they had consensual sex with him, and later that night he had nonconsensual sex with them. It seems Sweden (rightly) takes sexual assault much more seriously than some other jurisdictions.
Re:Sweden drops Julian Assange rape investigation by Sone7 on Friday May 19, 2017 @12:58PM (#14377470)
The two women say they were not raped, and were railroaded by Swedish police.

> "On a point of law, the Swedish Supreme Court has decided Ny can continue to obstruct on the vital issue of the SMS messages. This will now go to the European Court of Human Rights. What Ny fears is that the SMS messages will destroy her case against Assange. One of the messages makes clear that one of the women did not want any charges brought against Assange, "but the police were keen on getting a hold on him". She was "shocked" when they arrested him because she only "wanted him to take [an HIV] test". She "did not want to accuse JA of anything" and "it was the police who made up the charges". (In a witness statement, she is quoted as saying that she had been "railroaded by police and others around her".)

> Neither woman claimed she had been raped. Indeed, both have denied they were raped and one of them has since tweeted, "I have not been raped."

-from http://johnpilger.com/articles/assange-the-untold-story-of-a...

Re:Sweden drops Julian Assange rape investigation by panglott on Friday May 19, 2017 @01:01PM (#14377500)
I linked the NY Times story above, but at least one of the women remains adamant that she was raped, and is shocked by the decision to drop the case. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/19/world/europe/julian-assan...

'Elisabeth Massi Fritz, who represents the woman who accused Mr. Assange of rape, issued a scathing response after the prosecutors abandoned the case. “A legal examination is very important for someone who has been raped, as is the possibility for redress,” she said. “In this case, there have been many turns and the wait has been very long. My client is shocked and no decision to shut the case down can get her to change her position that Assange raped her.”'

Re:Sweden drops Julian Assange rape investigation by bjourne on Friday May 19, 2017 @01:40PM (#14377838)
After you have brought charges it becomes up to the prosecutor. You can't take them back. If it was possible for someone to take back charges, it would be trivial for the suspect to have the charges dropped by threatening the victim.
Re:Sweden drops Julian Assange rape investigation by Sunset on Friday May 19, 2017 @12:56PM (#14377456)
He had consensual sex with them. The sex only became nonconsensual retroactively when they learned about one another. Which is frankly, bullshit.
Re:Sweden drops Julian Assange rape investigation by panglott on Friday May 19, 2017 @01:04PM (#14377531)
My understanding is that he had consensual sex with them, they went to sleep, then he had nonconsensual sex with them while they were sleeping. They were individually disturbed by these events, but did not decide to file charges until they compared stories.

That's very different from "the sex became nonconsensual retroactively". And I don't think it's uncommon for women brave the consequences of speaking out about sexual assault when they believe there's a pattern of behavior they can protect other women from.

Re:Sweden drops Julian Assange rape investigation by allover on Friday May 19, 2017 @06:09PM (#14379706)
> My understanding is that he had consensual sex with them, they went to sleep, then he had nonconsensual sex with them while they were sleeping.

Source? Seems to differ from: https://www.theguardian.com/media/2010/dec/17/julian-assange...

Re:Sweden drops Julian Assange rape investigation by panglott on Monday May 22, 2017 @08:36AM (#14393032)
Thanks. I must have been thinking of Miss W's story there. Miss A's account is even more serious: clear sexual assault.
Re:Sweden drops Julian Assange rape investigation by Kiro on Friday May 19, 2017 @02:30PM (#14378226)
You're just speculating. But sure, in case the accusations are fabricated that's a much more plausible explanation than that there's a big conspiracy going on.
Re:Sweden drops Julian Assange rape investigation by rmc on Monday May 22, 2017 @03:39AM (#14391713)
No, one of the charges is that he started having sex with someone who was asleep.