Re:Ask HN: How can I do social good through programming?
by vlaaad on Friday May 19, 2017 @09:17AM
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...Unless it's advetising. Or Uber. Or government wanting you to implement yet another freedom-restricting bullshit.
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Re:Ask HN: How can I do social good through programming?
by patja on Friday May 19, 2017 @12:32PM
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I believe that over time your environment shapes you. I agree that you should devote your working hours to something more than shareholder value or increased clickthrough rates. Sure you can pull down the big bucks working on the next version of biological warfare weaponry and make large donations to Red Cross or whatever, but not without a personal toll.
Re:Ask HN: How can I do social good through programming?
by davidcbc on Friday May 19, 2017 @09:25AM
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Or do work for those places if you don't find them morally questionable.
Re:Ask HN: How can I do social good through programming?
by TeMPOraL on Friday May 19, 2017 @02:06PM
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A better rule is: just don't take a job in which your negative impact on the society will be greater than the positive impact of the money you donate.
Re:Ask HN: How can I do social good through programming?
by romanovcode on Friday May 19, 2017 @09:21AM
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> Or Uber.
There are plenty of companies 10x worse than Uber. Hivemind.
Re:Ask HN: How can I do social good through programming?
by falcolas on Friday May 19, 2017 @09:22AM
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That there are worse companies than Uber doesn't make Uber good, or even worth working for.
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Re:Ask HN: How can I do social good through programming?
by falcolas on Friday May 19, 2017 @09:32AM
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I think it makes the point that there are some cases where the cost of negatively impacting society is not worth the benefit of making more money to give to charity.
Re:Ask HN: How can I do social good through programming?
by beachbum8029 on Friday May 19, 2017 @09:22AM
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Ummmmmm but Uber made the world a better place? (for me anyway)
Re:Ask HN: How can I do social good through programming?
by falcolas on Friday May 19, 2017 @09:26AM
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Did it make your world a better place, or just add a bit of convenience whose cost was distributed to people you don't know?
Re:Ask HN: How can I do social good through programming?
by paulgb on Friday May 19, 2017 @09:33AM
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Well, the benefits are also distributed to people I don't know, so this type of accounting is tough.
Re:Ask HN: How can I do social good through programming?
by Kiro on Friday May 19, 2017 @10:35AM
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Disrupting the taxi mafia has definitely made the world a better place.
Re:Ask HN: How can I do social good through programming?
by falcolas on Friday May 19, 2017 @11:26AM
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Did the "taxi mafia" encourage a class of laborers who sleep in their cars for less than a minimum wage while depriving them of any kind of protections normally associated with employment?
Re:Ask HN: How can I do social good through programming?
by Epenthesis on Friday May 19, 2017 @12:01PM
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...yes?
Are you really unfamiliar with how medallion owners used to treat their drivers?
Re:Ask HN: How can I do social good through programming?
by falcolas on Friday May 19, 2017 @12:07PM
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Perhaps I have rose colored glasses, but the "sleeping in the car" problem seems new. But I could very well be wrong.
That said, how are we really in a better place? Same problem, different master.
Re:Ask HN: How can I do social good through programming?
by pc86 on Friday May 19, 2017 @12:35PM
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There is an early NYT article (early in the context of Uber's lifespan) detailing a day when a cab driver in NYC ended up paying his employer a few hundred dollars for the privilege of working that day. This was after all his fares for the shift.
Re:Ask HN: How can I do social good through programming?
by falcolas on Friday May 19, 2017 @01:00PM
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> But what if drivers don’t make enough to cover their rental charges? The company has clearly considered this possibility, as it’s included in a program FAQ. “No problem,” Uber says. “When you pick up your vehicle, Enterprise will take your valid credit or debit card to place on file. In the event of a difference, Enterprise will automatically charge the outstanding balance to the card on file.” See? No problem.
https://qz.com/563622/ubers-new-car-rental-program-for-drive...
Re:Ask HN: How can I do social good through programming?
by vlaaad on Friday May 19, 2017 @09:25AM
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Sorry, I said Uber a bit provocative. I meant companies doing unethical things and asking you to do unethical things.
Re:Ask HN: How can I do social good through programming?
by TeMPOraL on Friday May 19, 2017 @02:08PM
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Which Uber is definitely a good example of, but I agree it was a bit provocative :).
Re:Ask HN: How can I do social good through programming?
by streblo on Friday May 19, 2017 @03:15PM
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I work in advertising and I don't think it's immoral or unethical.
Re:Ask HN: How can I do social good through programming?
by andreasgonewild on Friday May 19, 2017 @08:50PM
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Advertising is about creating artificial problems and needs, making the world a shittier place for profit. Maybe pulling your head out of your ass would help?