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Re:Vancouver bans whales and dolphins at aquarium by animal_dude on Wednesday May 17, 2017 @03:27PM (#14361952)
> Are you suggesting that we let them die of starvation or simply eliminate them

A reasonable person might suggest we not purposefully birth 150 billion+ animals every year just so they can be killed. The "let them starve" argument is a strawman, since the whole world would not eschew animal products overnight, but rather as a gradual progress.

Re:Vancouver bans whales and dolphins at aquarium by abandonliberty on Wednesday May 17, 2017 @06:54PM (#14363505)
Interesting. Wouldn't it be much more appropriate to argue a false dilemma in this situation?

You suggested gradual elimination, which is an elimination process. I would argue that neither fallacy apply.

I wonder what proportion of animals would chose non-existence over existence if they could understand such concepts. That's quite the decision to make for them.

Re:Vancouver bans whales and dolphins at aquarium by animal_dude on Thursday May 18, 2017 @12:53PM (#14368836)
> I wonder what proportion of animals would chose non-existence over existence if they could understand such concepts.

May I suggest you look at some footage from slaughterhouses to make that determination for yourself? Or, if you're particularly stoic, I dare you to watch Earthlings.

Re:Vancouver bans whales and dolphins at aquarium by jlebrech on Thursday May 18, 2017 @04:18AM (#14365634)
it's a cause and effect reversal, no need to birth so many animals if you can't eat them.