Chelsea Manning Is Expected to Leave Prison, 28 Years Early

Re:Chelsea Manning Is Expected to Leave Prison, 28 Years Early by LunaSea on Wednesday May 17, 2017 @09:01AM (#14357971)

This line of thinking is the problem. When you have the head of the NSA perjuring himself in front of Congress, talking to a judge is not going to do anything. These documents went public because they were proof of illegal activities by the NSA and because Snowden already use all internal recourses he knew of. Three years later nobody has been indicted for these crimes which proves once again that official channels were not an option.

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Re:Chelsea Manning Is Expected to Leave Prison, 28 Years Early by pif on Wednesday May 17, 2017 @09:05AM (#14358000)

> This line of thinking is the problem.

I think that your government getting naked in front of allies is a problem, too.

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Re:Chelsea Manning Is Expected to Leave Prison, 28 Years Early by corndoge on Wednesday May 17, 2017 @09:41AM (#14358287)

Sometimes I find it useful to step back and remember that alliances, enemies, governments and countries are just human constructed actors in an unnecessary drama constructed and played out entirely by humans on an insignificant rock in space. From that perspective, it's hard to judge foils and vigilantes appearing in the grand plot.

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Re:Chelsea Manning Is Expected to Leave Prison, 28 Years Early by kakarot on Wednesday May 17, 2017 @09:37AM (#14358246)

My friend, America has made its own bed and we should not shoot the messenger.

Getting mad at someone for releasing information that should not be hidden from the people who allow their government to exist, because now other bad guys know the info too, is like getting mad because your girlfriend's friend told her you were cheating on her. It's a shifting of blame, and part of a propaganda campaign for damage control. Your opinion has successfully been bucketed into one of few.

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Re:Chelsea Manning Is Expected to Leave Prison, 28 Years Early by votepaunchy on Wednesday May 17, 2017 @09:39AM (#14358270)

"the head of the NSA perjuring himself in front of Congress"

Citation needed.

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Re:Chelsea Manning Is Expected to Leave Prison, 28 Years Early by ChristianBundy on Wednesday May 17, 2017 @09:46AM (#14358340)

Wyden: "Does the NSA collect any type of data at all on millions or hundreds of millions of Americans?"

Clapper: "No, sir.

Wyden: "It does /not/?"

Clapper: "Not wittingly. There are cases where they could inadvertently perhaps but not wittingly."

https://youtu.be/AGYn7ER5U_0

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Re:Chelsea Manning Is Expected to Leave Prison, 28 Years Early by scrollaway on Wednesday May 17, 2017 @09:46AM (#14358336)

You could've googled exactly what you quoted and included the first result in your post: http://www.hasjamesclapperbeenindictedyet.com/

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Re:Chelsea Manning Is Expected to Leave Prison, 28 Years Early by lern_too_spel on Wednesday May 17, 2017 @09:55AM (#14358428)

James Clapper wasn't "the head of the NSA" any more than Obama was.

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Re:Chelsea Manning Is Expected to Leave Prison, 28 Years Early by hectorr on Wednesday May 17, 2017 @10:25AM (#14358705)

IIRC Clapper (NSA) was asked a question by Wyden (D-OR) about a classified program in an open hearing. Wyden knew the real answer from a previous classified briefing, and forced Clapper to either lie or violate secrecy in public. So Clapper lied.

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