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Re:The Awful Reign of the Red Delicious (2014) by jdietrich on Tuesday May 16, 2017 @08:33PM (#14354611)
The energy required to ship an apple from New Zealand to California is significantly less than the energy needed to truck it from California to Colorado. Energy policy is strange and counter-intuitive.

https://www.c2es.org/technology/factsheet/FreightTransportat...

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Re:The Awful Reign of the Red Delicious (2014) by dredmorbius on Wednesday May 17, 2017 @09:52AM (#14358401)
Interestingly, whilst thequantities of energy in transport have changed since pre-industrial times, the relative ratios haven't, much.

Ocean transport is roughly 20x more fuel efficient per tonne-kilometer as overland trucking.

Rail is the new element, it's essentially dry ships, though aabout half the efficience of marine transit.

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