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Re:My Family’s Slave by tmaly on Tuesday May 16, 2017 @05:56PM (#14353671)
Lola happens to be the word for Grandma in the Philippines.

The description of this idea of a live in slave is alive and well in many parts of Asian and the Middle East.

Life in the Philippines is quite a struggle especially in the provinces. I know of a few people that live and work in Hong Kong doing the same job described in the article, but they are doing it for two families for very little pay.

Re:My Family’s Slave by placeybordeaux on Tuesday May 16, 2017 @08:24PM (#14354558)
I was surprised the author didn't include the detail about lola meaning grandmother.
Re:My Family’s Slave by seppin on Tuesday May 16, 2017 @05:58PM (#14353683)
I am wrong to think that this kind of thing is more acceptable in Asia than anywhere else?
Re:My Family’s Slave by lacampbell on Tuesday May 16, 2017 @06:02PM (#14353718)
It's more acceptable outside the west. Western cultures were the ones who decided slavery was a universal sin and had to be eradicated everywhere.

There are still whole races of people kept as slaves in sub-saharan Africa, for example. And I mean outright slavery, no ambiguity about it.

Abolitionism is a Eurocentric concept.

Another example from Asia. Two people were kept as slaves for 14 years in a tofu factory. This is in a developed country with a GDP per capita comparable to Spains. They were caught and fined 40k USD, no jail time.

http://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3105152

Re:My Family’s Slave by rsynnott on Tuesday May 16, 2017 @06:57PM (#14354064)
It's worth noting that punishments for 'employing' unfree labour in the west are also often astonishingly small, when it's prosecuted at all. Despite there being a fair bit of it around few people end up in jail over it.
Re:My Family’s Slave by MrZongle2 on Tuesday May 16, 2017 @06:03PM (#14353729)
Western cultures were the ones who decided slavery was a universal sin and had to be eradicated everywhere.

Were they wrong?

Re:My Family’s Slave by lacampbell on Tuesday May 16, 2017 @06:05PM (#14353741)
No, they were not. Slavery is a universal wrong.
Re:My Family’s Slave by Bakary on Tuesday May 16, 2017 @09:29PM (#14354885)
Only because we were fortunate enough that the culture that ended up banning it won out. In fact we are lucky that Western culture took this path at all.
Re:My Family’s Slave by MrZongle2 on Tuesday May 16, 2017 @06:22PM (#14353848)
Well, I agree. I just am surprised that its condemnation seems rather....muted in some of these replies.
Re:My Family’s Slave by matz1 on Tuesday May 16, 2017 @08:55PM (#14354736)
Right or wrong is relative. Including slavery.
Re:My Family’s Slave by lacampbell on Tuesday May 16, 2017 @10:23PM (#14355120)
Wow that's super progressive. I'm not one for cultural relativism though, I'm afraid. I'm quite the reactionary, unenlightened provincial bore, with my outmoded beliefs like "slavery is unjustifiable".
Re:My Family’s Slave by legolas2412 on Tuesday May 16, 2017 @09:18PM (#14354844)
It's just about whether you believe in equality and freedom or not.
Re:My Family’s Slave by matz1 on Tuesday May 16, 2017 @09:22PM (#14354858)
Yes, not all human care or believe in that.
Re:My Family’s Slave by 5thaccount on Tuesday May 16, 2017 @08:30PM (#14354592)
Depends where you define Asia as. Saudi Arabia plays in the Asian conference in FIFA, but so does Australia. Australian and Saudi values differ ever so slightly :)

This idea is definitely more acceptable than it is in the west in all the world. Africa. Asia. Middle East. Maybe not South America, but even there it would be more acceptable than it is in say Norway.

As for the absolute level of acceptability in each area or country, that is hard to work out, especially in Asia where saving face means something can be unacceptable in theory, but practiced quasi-openly, as in the example of the article, where Lola was an open secret in the guys family.

Re:My Family’s Slave by pcr0 on Tuesday May 16, 2017 @06:19PM (#14353831)
Even more so in parts of the Middle East.
Re:My Family’s Slave by mazerackham on Monday May 22, 2017 @09:45AM (#14393472)
yes you are wrong to think this