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Re:UploadVR sued over ‘rampant’ sexual behavior in workplace... by smoyer on Monday May 15, 2017 @08:33PM (#14346479)
This is the logical consequence of Peter Thiel's idea that you put bright (but often socially inept) high-school nerds directly into founding roles in companies. You end up with socially inept and socially inappropriate bosses who were never forced to conform to society's norms.

EDIT: I am not implying that Peter Thiel would condone this behavior.

Re:UploadVR sued over ‘rampant’ sexual behavior in workplace... by trsohmers on Monday May 15, 2017 @09:08PM (#14346636)
I feel I have to defend myself here to some extent (being a now former Thiel Fellow), but I can fairly safely say that the ~20 other Thiel Fellows that I would call "friends" would never do anything close to this at their companies. While there are now over 120 fellows and I do not know them all, I bet there is one or at most a small handful that could fit your description, but I would say that of any group of similar size that you were to pick from a university.

I would definitely say I am socially awkward/inept, but I don't think that necessarily correlates with being socially maladapted/unaware of societies norms. The sort of "bro" culture that exemplifies UploadVR's, Uber, and many other "hot" tech companies right now is the culture that myself and most other high-school nerds that I knew rejected... we were not the popular kids that drank, had sex, and partied. I think all of this is a symptom of technology being a much more attractive jobspace for the general public (which includes a lot of "bros") compared to just for "nerds" that it was decades ago, and your conclusion is the exact opposite of this.

Granted it is an anecdote with a relatively small sample size, but I have not seen this sort of behavior/ideas from anyone who never went to college or dropped out, but I see it from plenty of folks in their late 20s/early 30s that never grew up from their college fraternity experiences.

Re:UploadVR sued over ‘rampant’ sexual behavior in workplace... by smoyer on Monday May 15, 2017 @09:18PM (#14346681)
I shouldn't have type-cast an entire group. Clearly you can be socially inept and yet be appropriate (I was more like that too). But I also started as an employee in smallish companies and moved to founding them.

I should also note that some never seem to "grow up" - appropriateness simply eludes them permanently. If you look at Uber you have a founder that could, in theory, be a grandfather but doesn't seem to have a sense of what society condones.

Re:UploadVR sued over ‘rampant’ sexual behavior in workplace... by gotothedoctor on Monday May 15, 2017 @09:18PM (#14346680)
What gives you the impression that these specific people are bright? Or were never forced to conform?

This is not how socially inept high school nerds behave; its how VC funded frat bros (who include their fraternity on their linkedin profile) do.

Not sure why I am defending Peter Thiel, but I don't think this has anything to do with him or any of his bad ideas.

Re:UploadVR sued over ‘rampant’ sexual behavior in workplace... by smoyer on Monday May 15, 2017 @09:22PM (#14346697)
You're right ... it's a very clear extension of the frat-bro phenomenon. You don't need to defend Thiel as I wasn't attacking him. He was simply a convenient adjective since I thought most here would know about his fellowship program (and I had to apologize for stereotyping high school nerds in another sub-comment).
Re:UploadVR sued over ‘rampant’ sexual behavior in workplace... by jvrossb on Monday May 15, 2017 @11:43PM (#14347227)
The founders are far from socially-inept nerds. Perhaps relevant in some cases, but not at all here. I think that the average socially-inept-nerd company culture may be better than what this lawsuit implies existed at Upload.