Yeah then you get into situations where they're going all out trying to get you to tip. Offering stuff, not shutting up, etc.

I used to prefer Lyft due to the silly SV smugness of Uber, but outside the US I depend on Uber and have come to prefer it.

Technically you don't have to tip at e restaurant either (large parties excluded). Try going back there and see the service you get.

Lyft should show the total of tips every 20 trips or so they had no chance of guessing who tipped and who didn't. Or openly state that a 15% tip would be appreciated and the passenger knows that it's the ride +15%.

FYI Lyft drivers are paid out every $50 or every week, so they don't know exactly who is tipping (unless you like them enough to tip $40 on a $10 cab ride).

https://help.lyft.com/hc/en-us/articles/213830188-Express-Pa...

Lyft is intentionally fuzzy about ride pricing, so even though the driver total is shown real time, it's hard for them to know how much the rider was charged given surge pricing.