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Re:Why We Are Self-Publishing the Aviary Cookbook by mark_l_watson on Sunday May 14, 2017 @04:07PM (#14337318)
Great writeup on the under-belly of publishing!

The first 11 books I wrote were published by mainstream publishers (McGraw-Hill, J. Riley, Springer-Verlag, Morgan Kaufman). While I am grateful for the advance monies paid and great support in writing, I eventually decided that I wanted the freedom to write on whatever topics I wanted and all my new stuff is self published, first through lulu.com and now through leanpub.com.

I encourage people to write a book (or books). It is a really fun process. I would suggest using a publisher for a book and then also try self publishing using leanpub.com or some other platform. Decide for yourself with you prefer.

Re:Why We Are Self-Publishing the Aviary Cookbook by ci5er on Sunday May 14, 2017 @09:35PM (#14338517)
> I encourage people to write a book (or books). It is a really fun process.

I don't mean this in a derogatory way, but you are insane.

I've written a couple for MK and SV and edited a few more conference books and a few more compilations of submitted chapters in an attempt to create a cogently thematic book, and I hated the world, everyone in it and myself. Never again.

Re:Why We Are Self-Publishing the Aviary Cookbook by mark_l_watson on Sunday May 14, 2017 @10:51PM (#14338823)
Many people agree with you, but I like the process. I do sometimes take a month off with no writing, but not very often.
Re:Why We Are Self-Publishing the Aviary Cookbook by gcb0 on Sunday May 14, 2017 @04:26PM (#14337394)
leanpub is a cheap markdown printing. you don't get even bibliographic helpers. let alone full color bled pages. always saw it as printed github wiki pages (which seems to also describe most of their content)

...or am I wrong?

Re:Why We Are Self-Publishing the Aviary Cookbook by peterarmstrong on Sunday May 14, 2017 @06:41PM (#14337941)
[Leanpub co-founder here.]

We use Markdown for authoring (one of two dialects: either Leanpub Flavoured Markdown or Markua).

We automatically produce PDF, EPUB, MOBI (what you were saying, essentially), but we also produce InDesign export. If you have a designer, give him/her the InDesign files. You can then produce exactly what you want as a finished product for print, with as much design as you want. But while the book is in-progress, nothing beats being able to click a button to publish.

...and if you don't want to do the InDesign work, you can just click a button and get a print-ready PDF file automatically produced by Leanpub.

Re:Why We Are Self-Publishing the Aviary Cookbook by gcb0 on Wednesday May 17, 2017 @08:02PM (#14363897)
Interesting. You should make that more obvious on the site.

I got the impression it was 100% opaque from web ui -> paying for printed books.

Do you offer paper size/weight options? And what are the prices if I already have the book proofed and am just looking for a press?

Re:Why We Are Self-Publishing the Aviary Cookbook by peterarmstrong on Friday May 19, 2017 @12:16PM (#14377075)
We don't produce print books. Instead, we generate a print-ready PDF or InDesign.

With the print-ready PDF, you can use it on unchanged places like Lulu or CreateSpace. (With the print-ready PDF, we alternate margins (wider in middle) and page numbers (put them on the outside), start chapters on the right, etc. We also omit the cover, so that you can use their cover wizard things.)

With InDesign, your designer will need to do some work. We produce ICML.

Leanpub is primarily an ebook production workflow + storefront. The print-book-ready file export is something we just give away, since our authors want it. We currently don't want to be in the business of producing physical books ourselves.

Re:Why We Are Self-Publishing the Aviary Cookbook by accordionclown on Monday May 15, 2017 @04:52PM (#14345004)
your opinion is your opinion, and i wouldn't call it "wrong".

but my opinion is quite different.

i've been active in the e-book sphere for a long time, and i've studied e-book authoring quite extensively, even programming some systems myself, and i think leanpub is quite good. i liked it better when you didn't have to make a lump-sum payment in advance, but even now, i think it's one of the best systems around, especially for people who don't want to code their own solution. and leanpub gives you access to a customer-base that's more than large enough to warrant the small percentage they skim off your sales.

Re:Why We Are Self-Publishing the Aviary Cookbook by gcb0 on Wednesday May 17, 2017 @08:05PM (#14363905)
you repeated what i said. it is perfect if what you want is to print github help pages as far as style is concerned. You just confirmed that this is what you want. The article we are commenting on is about artsy full color photos coffee table book, after all.
Re:Why We Are Self-Publishing the Aviary Cookbook by howfun on Sunday May 14, 2017 @04:12PM (#14337335)
When you you self publish can you stil sell kindle edition on Amazon?
Re:Why We Are Self-Publishing the Aviary Cookbook by MrMorden on Sunday May 14, 2017 @04:43PM (#14337476)
The big caveat is that Amazon wants you to enroll in the Kindle Unlimited program—and they'll require exclusivity. This is, to be extremely generous, a bad idea for the author.
Re:Why We Are Self-Publishing the Aviary Cookbook by tomcam on Sunday May 14, 2017 @09:37PM (#14338534)
It is not a requirement of Amazon
Re:Why We Are Self-Publishing the Aviary Cookbook by MrMorden on Sunday May 14, 2017 @11:50PM (#14339028)
Not a requirement that you participate in Kindle Unlimited to sell Kindle ebooks, but Kindle Unlimited requires Amazon exclusivity. (I could have worded that comment better.)
Re:Why We Are Self-Publishing the Aviary Cookbook by mark_l_watson on Sunday May 14, 2017 @10:47PM (#14338812)
Sure, it is an easy process but you get a lower royalty from Amazon if you are not exclusive for them. My books sell better on lean pub, but I have also started publishing via the Kindle platform.
Re:Why We Are Self-Publishing the Aviary Cookbook by tomcam on Sunday May 14, 2017 @04:29PM (#14337410)
Absolutely
Re:Why We Are Self-Publishing the Aviary Cookbook by qznc on Sunday May 14, 2017 @04:52PM (#14337515)
This guy [0] thinks mainstream publishers exists mostly for the prestige.

[0] https://michaelochurch.wordpress.com/2017/05/06/crossing-the...

Re:Why We Are Self-Publishing the Aviary Cookbook by grepthisab on Sunday May 14, 2017 @05:48PM (#14337747)
Hard to take this guy seriously. He used to post pretty vile stuff online on a racist message board and had an entire Wikipedia article dedicated to his sockpuppeting.
Re:Why We Are Self-Publishing the Aviary Cookbook by GuiA on Sunday May 14, 2017 @06:18PM (#14337864)
Idk about him, and that article is very well written and insightful, with no traces of racism.
Re:Why We Are Self-Publishing the Aviary Cookbook by myhrvold on Sunday May 14, 2017 @07:26PM (#14338081)
I've never heard of him espousing detrimental views FWIW. He had a public spat with Google after he left though: https://www.quora.com/What-does-it-feel-like-to-be-fired-fro... There used to be a lot more blog articles about it (on that same blog I believe), but now that it's been a number of years (maybe even 10 by now?) I think they've slowly started disappearing.

Edit: here's the explanation on why you can't find a lot of his earlier material online: https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/44bmmq/why_agi...

Re:Why We Are Self-Publishing the Aviary Cookbook by ryanwaggoner on Tuesday May 16, 2017 @05:35AM (#14348405)
He was fairly active here until being banned a couple years ago:

https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=michaelochurch