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Re:Noncompete Clauses: Signing Away the Right to Get a New Job by trustfundbaby on Saturday May 13, 2017 @04:58PM (#14332982)
Just be ready for the company to pull the offer. Lots of times it's not even on the principle (we don't actually agree to the changes) but ego ... as in "who does this guy think he is pushing back on this contract that 100s of our employees have signed"

If you're not ready for the company to walk away, be careful with this approach.

Re:Noncompete Clauses: Signing Away the Right to Get a New Job by etjossem on Saturday May 13, 2017 @05:03PM (#14333010)
Agreed. Be aware of your BATNA (that's your "best alternative to negotiated agreement") as well as the potential employer's. As in any negotiation, you should stack the deck in your favor beforehand - be late-stage in the interview process elsewhere, ideally have other offers, truthfully signal that you do, and try to move at a time when the employer badly needs to make a hire.
Re:Noncompete Clauses: Signing Away the Right to Get a New Job by CapitalistCartr on Saturday May 13, 2017 @05:50PM (#14333205)
If you're not prepared to walk away from the table, its not a negotiation. They're just telling you what you're going to do.
Re:Noncompete Clauses: Signing Away the Right to Get a New Job by ChuckMcM on Saturday May 13, 2017 @05:18PM (#14333083)
Exactly right. Large companies are especially prone to this behavior. If you're coming in as a VP or Director its one thing, if you're coming in as a non-executive it is entirely something else.
Re:Noncompete Clauses: Signing Away the Right to Get a New Job by crdoconnor on Saturday May 13, 2017 @05:42PM (#14333175)
If it's an unreasonable contract and they refuse to make the contract reasonable upon request then having the company walk away probably means you dodged a bullet.
Re:Noncompete Clauses: Signing Away the Right to Get a New Job by umanwizard on Saturday May 13, 2017 @08:37PM (#14333676)
Is starving to death really better than signing a shitty contract?

It's not very easy for most people to find a new job.

Re:Noncompete Clauses: Signing Away the Right to Get a New Job by crdoconnor on Sunday May 14, 2017 @07:11AM (#14335123)
For software developers there's usually another job out there although I agree in principle - if you're on the low end of the wage ladder you're somewhat screwed.
Re:Noncompete Clauses: Signing Away the Right to Get a New Job by koolba on Saturday May 13, 2017 @05:01PM (#14332998)
If you're not ready to walk away then you're not ready period.