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Re:Waymo’s lawsuit against Uber is going to trial, judge rules by Gibbon1 on Friday May 12, 2017 @03:51AM (#14322159)
Someone I know worked for a tech company in the valley back in the eighties that made high end medical equipment. They caught an American and Japanese company trying to reverse engineer one of their products. End result was both companies were bared from that market for something like 15 years.
Re:Waymo’s lawsuit against Uber is going to trial, judge rules by cbr on Friday May 12, 2017 @07:47AM (#14323116)
This story is missing something, since reverse engineering is legal and done properly [1] gets you around copyrights and trade secrets. We're patents involved?

[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clean_room_design

Re:Waymo’s lawsuit against Uber is going to trial, judge rules by amyjess on Friday May 12, 2017 @11:24AM (#14324800)
My guess is corporate espionage. For them to get an injunction like this, they probably paid members of the engineering team to give them proprietary information.
Re:Waymo’s lawsuit against Uber is going to trial, judge rules by FireBeyond on Friday May 12, 2017 @01:27PM (#14325907)
You're going to have a hard time proving it was done properly, clean room, etc, when one of the heads of your department on the topic was a key engineer of the technology you are supposedly reverse engineering when he worked on it at the competitor who developed it.
Re:Waymo’s lawsuit against Uber is going to trial, judge rules by woodandsteel on Friday May 12, 2017 @04:33PM (#14327664)
I guess Uber wants us to believe that Lewandowski downloaded the files for some other purpose than using the information in the job he was going to start in a few days.
Re:Waymo’s lawsuit against Uber is going to trial, judge rules by bobsil1 on Friday May 12, 2017 @05:47PM (#14328207)
Flip side, he can't be barred from using his skills as long as you document clean room procedures.
Re:Waymo’s lawsuit against Uber is going to trial, judge rules by linkregister on Friday May 12, 2017 @01:53PM (#14326165)
Thanks, I have a knee-jerk reaction to "reverse engineering is illegal / a tort" statements without nuance.
Re:Waymo’s lawsuit against Uber is going to trial, judge rules by tomp on Friday May 12, 2017 @06:18AM (#14322728)
Why is reverse engineering illegal (unless covered by a patent)?
Re:Waymo’s lawsuit against Uber is going to trial, judge rules by smoodles on Friday May 12, 2017 @01:25PM (#14325885)
My recollection is reverse engineering is legal, but it needs to be done carefully. Using staff that designed the "thing" you are trying to reverse engineer is not part of the doing it carefully bit...