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Re:Show HN: Spotter – Search for copies of videos on the int... by Asooka on Wednesday May 10, 2017 @08:52AM (#14307753)
You don't have to, fair-use is a defence only applicable in court, the easiest way is to sue everyone and let their lawyers assert fair-use. AFAIK it's not unlawful, nor will you incur any fines, if you sue someone for using your copyrighted material if it ends up being declared fair-use. Additionally, I think youtube is even more lenient than that towards people asserting unlawful use of their copyrighted material. In short, fair-use does not exist outside of the courtroom and no amount of "I own no copyrights" or "No copyright intended" tags, or citing the copyright code on your videos can summon it.
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Re:Show HN: Spotter – Search for copies of videos on the int... by dickbasedregex on Wednesday May 10, 2017 @08:57AM (#14307777)
YouTube already does an absolutely horrible job with handling take-downs and fair use. I have zero interest in seeing any systems or algorithms built that would aid the sloppy, lazy, and greedy organizations shot gunning take downs, even on their own material and channels (always funny).
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Re:Show HN: Spotter – Search for copies of videos on the int... by yomly on Wednesday May 10, 2017 @09:17AM (#14307885)
This amuses me greatly, got any tangible examples?
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Re:Show HN: Spotter – Search for copies of videos on the int... by brlewis on Wednesday May 10, 2017 @11:32AM (#14308932)
I posted an unlisted video of my daughter at a noisy indoor theme park. It got automatically removed because the venue had a song playing in the background.
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Re:Show HN: Spotter – Search for copies of videos on the int... by emodendroket on Wednesday May 10, 2017 @09:29AM (#14307972)
jwz posted a thing about his long saga fighting a takedown of horror movie reviews.
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Re:Show HN: Spotter – Search for copies of videos on the int... by yomly on Wednesday May 10, 2017 @04:43PM (#14311513)
>even on their own material and channels (always funny).

I was referring specifically to this? Am I right to infer that DMCAs are so scatter gun that publishers have managed to DMCA themselves?

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Re:Show HN: Spotter – Search for copies of videos on the int... by Nadya on Wednesday May 10, 2017 @04:44PM (#14311523)
>Am I right to infer that DMCAs are so scatter gun that publishers have managed to DMCA themselves?

Yes this has happened multiple times. Notable one that's somewhat recent that comes to mind: https://torrentfreak.com/warner-bros-flags-website-piracy-po...

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Re:Show HN: Spotter – Search for copies of videos on the int... by SomeStupidPoint on Wednesday May 10, 2017 @10:34AM (#14308498)
Your line of thinking is why we need anti-SLAPP style laws protecting Fair Use.

Strategic lawsuits against Fair Use are a form of stifling protected speech.

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Re:Show HN: Spotter – Search for copies of videos on the int... by corobo on Wednesday May 10, 2017 @08:57AM (#14307778)
> sue everyone and let their lawyers assert fair-use

YouTube would turn into a tumbleweed landscape overnight!

I've often thought YT should just add "No copyright intended" et al as a ContentID trigger though.

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Re:Show HN: Spotter – Search for copies of videos on the int... by emodendroket on Wednesday May 10, 2017 @09:29AM (#14307969)
"No copyright intended" always makes me laugh. What does that even mean?
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Re:Show HN: Spotter – Search for copies of videos on the int... by rmc on Wednesday May 10, 2017 @09:35AM (#14308016)
It means the average person has no idea how copyright law works. It means lots of average people think there is nothing wrong with non-commerical usage of copyrighted works so long as you don't try to pass something off as your own. It means the legal definition of copyright infringement is out of step of what most people think of as right and wrong.
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