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Re:Maintainers make the world go round: Innovation is an ove... by milquetoastaf on Monday May 08, 2017 @05:52PM (#14295964)
>Maintenance is something very, very specifically Western.

Yep, no other cultures maintain anything.

Re:Maintainers make the world go round: Innovation is an ove... by euske on Monday May 08, 2017 @07:35PM (#14296554)
This is pretty laughable. To me, almost every Western country is half-broken. When I lived in the US, I was surprised how frequent power faults were there. Streets are full of bumps and corroded pipes were everywhere. And in Europe. Do they have any concept of a decent public bathroom over there? Oh, and don't get me started on how badly their trains are operating. I bet that many train accidents are due to the poor maintenance. It's probably true that maintenance is less paid an attention in poor countries, and there are more non-Western countries that are poor. But it's funny that people can get away with a claim like this. It almost sounds like a white supremacist to me.

TL;DR: Japan is nice.

Re:Maintainers make the world go round: Innovation is an ove... by avn2109 on Monday May 08, 2017 @08:58PM (#14296926)
The GP quote contrasts "the West" to Russia, which is itself overwhelmingly White. It's hard to see a white supremacist angle on a comparison between two majority-white blocs.
Re:Maintainers make the world go round: Innovation is an ove... by pjc50 on Tuesday May 09, 2017 @07:13AM (#14299025)
In the taxonomy of white supremacists, Russians are "slavic". This was literally part of Hitler's justification for invading eastwards.

("Whiteness" is not simply about skin colour. There's a fascinating/ugly history of how various immigrant groups to America became "white")

Re:Maintainers make the world go round: Innovation is an ove... by taneq on Monday May 08, 2017 @09:41PM (#14297126)
Yeah, Japan was my first thought when I read that. You can't tell me with a straight face that they don't maintain everything to within an inch of its life.
Re:Maintainers make the world go round: Innovation is an ove... by animal531 on Tuesday May 09, 2017 @08:16AM (#14299332)
Ironically except for the single most maintained item in the west, which is a house.

In Japan they are treated as basically disposable.

Re:Maintainers make the world go round: Innovation is an ove... by taneq on Wednesday May 10, 2017 @06:19PM (#14312257)
Gotta have a gold sink in your economy somewhere to fight inflation.
Re:Maintainers make the world go round: Innovation is an ove... by 77pt77 on Tuesday May 09, 2017 @10:14AM (#14300154)
> TL;DR: Japan is nice.

True, but was also devastated by a war that allowed rebuilding almost from scratch.

Re:Maintainers make the world go round: Innovation is an ove... by derefr on Monday May 08, 2017 @06:24PM (#14296199)
Maintaining things coincidentally, and thinking in terms of there being such an activity as "maintenance" that you might want to start doing on any given thing if you aren't doing it already, are different things. I can believe that some cultures have no concept of "Total Cost of Ownership" distinct from purchase price, for example.