Re:Has Uber killed off its self-driving trucks?
by ghaff on Monday May 08, 2017 @06:50PM
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So Uber just needs to win, in a sustainable differentiated way, self-driving technology, get it incorporated into actual cars in production volumes, and roll it out as a new major national car rental company based mostly on very short-term rentals. Within, as you say, their operational runway.
Re:Has Uber killed off its self-driving trucks?
by placeybordeaux on Monday May 08, 2017 @06:00PM
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I think that steps 2 and 4 are the biggest questions for me, but the details about keeping the cars running & clean are also good ones. Right now Uber can externalize the costs of a running clean car. Running their own fleet will mean that stuff like gas, maintenance, cleanliness, misc stuff that 5 star uber drivers do (free candy, water etc) will no longer be externalized and bore by their drivers.
P.S. did you mean bearish instead of bullish?
1. Uber will be first to market with driverless car technology. That is, it will beat Waymo, all the actual car companies, Apple, Tesla, and 100 other startups.
2. Given 1, Uber's driverless car technology is a durable technological advantage (ie, even if it's first to market, that doesn't matter much if Waymo follows it to market 3 months later). Note that we are at this point stipulating that this technological challenge is doable with a team that you spun up out of nothing a couple of years ago, as not-the-best-resourced team on the block.
3. Given 2, the legal issues with driverless cars are resolved well enough that Uber has a viable business.
4. Given 3, Uber can successfully raise money for an incredible capital expenditure (how many cars are we talking here? 1,000,000, very conservatively? At $20,000 ea, very conservatively? So $20B investment), and then handle that kind of capital investment.
5. Given 4, build up all the supporting infrastructure for this business (parking, local cleaning, etc.)
6. Given 5, this all happens within Uber's operational runway (like, starts within 3-5 years, finishes within 10 or so)?
Personally, I'd put the odds of this at: 10% for 1 * 10% for 2 * 90% for 3 * 80% for 4 * 70% for 5 * 20% for 6 = roughly 0.1%.
But even if you're way more bullish on Uber than I am, can anyone really argue for more than 50% for 1 * 50% for 2 * 90% for 3 * 95% for 4 * 95% for 5 * 80% for 6? That's still only 16%.