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Re:FCC to investigate, 'take appropriate action' on Colbert’... by gigatexal on Friday May 05, 2017 @07:26PM (#14277577)
wow... his comments were pejorative but I think they are or should be protected under free speech. I don't think they were defamatory any more than the president considering mainstream news as 'fake'. And his show is comedic in nature... that should mean something in his defense.

Is saying this about the president really that bad given the alleged Russian ties to the election and the president's overall ... um polarizing policies?

"The only thing your mouth is good at is being [Russian President] Vladimir Putin’s cock holster,"

Re:FCC to investigate, 'take appropriate action' on Colbert’... by philiphodgen on Friday May 05, 2017 @07:48PM (#14277685)
I think the FCC will respect the first amendment but may object to the potty-mouth sentence you quoted. They went after Howard Stern in a similar situation.

More to the point, Mr. Colbert should be ashamed of himself. Have some decency, Mr. Colbert.

Re:FCC to investigate, 'take appropriate action' on Colbert’... by mcphage on Friday May 05, 2017 @09:26PM (#14278127)
> Have some decency, Mr. Colbert.

When our government behaves decently, maybe. Right now Trump deserves none.

Re:FCC to investigate, 'take appropriate action' on Colbert’... by mhh__ on Friday May 05, 2017 @09:08PM (#14278058)
Why should he be decent?
Re:FCC to investigate, 'take appropriate action' on Colbert’... by SimbaOnSteroids on Friday May 05, 2017 @08:13PM (#14277820)
Decency with regards to what exacly?
Re:FCC to investigate, 'take appropriate action' on Colbert’... by gozur88 on Friday May 05, 2017 @08:29PM (#14277905)
Language.
Re:FCC to investigate, 'take appropriate action' on Colbert’... by SimbaOnSteroids on Friday May 05, 2017 @08:50PM (#14277989)
He's a comedian, grow up.
Re:FCC to investigate, 'take appropriate action' on Colbert’... by gozur88 on Friday May 05, 2017 @09:08PM (#14278056)
Doesn't matter who he is. This is broadcast television.
Re:FCC to investigate, 'take appropriate action' on Colbert’... by jsiepkes on Friday May 05, 2017 @09:35PM (#14278175)
In the land of the free you can't say cock on TV before 22:00. What's next? Decency police like in Iran?
Re:FCC to investigate, 'take appropriate action' on Colbert’... by gozur88 on Friday May 05, 2017 @09:45PM (#14278215)
It turns out people with children aren't very open to having their kids exposed to adult material on television. This is not a new thing, either - it's been that way since day 1.

Unlike mobile providers, broadcast companies didn't pay for the spectrum they use. It's a public resource that is licensed to them, and part of that license involves restrictions on language and also depictions of gore and sex.

Re:FCC to investigate, 'take appropriate action' on Colbert’... by jsiepkes on Saturday May 06, 2017 @05:34AM (#14279495)
Public service? Maybe your confusing it with some European models but in the US there is nothing public about it. Broadcasters pay big bucks to companies like Comcast to get their station transmitted.

And if your kid is not old enough to hear to word dick then he should be in bed long before 22:00.

Re:FCC to investigate, 'take appropriate action' on Colbert’... by gozur88 on Saturday May 06, 2017 @01:38PM (#14281375)
Maybe you don't understand how things work in the US. This has nothing to do with cable. It's about over-the-air broadcast. If it had just been cable there wouldn't be a problem.
Re:FCC to investigate, 'take appropriate action' on Colbert’... by lawnchair_larry on Saturday May 06, 2017 @02:08PM (#14281517)
What does delivery medium have to do with anything? I guarantee no kid knows the difference. They press channel up and channel down. It makes no sense why one would be upset over that.
Re:FCC to investigate, 'take appropriate action' on Colbert’... by gozur88 on Sunday May 07, 2017 @01:38AM (#14284031)
As I pointed out above. The medium is important because the spectrum is a public resource, and cable isn't.
Re:FCC to investigate, 'take appropriate action' on Colbert’... by gozur88 on Friday May 05, 2017 @08:29PM (#14277898)
The legal requirement for broadcast networks to abide by decency standards is settled law. If it had just been on cable there wouldn't be a problem.
Re:FCC to investigate, 'take appropriate action' on Colbert’... by blackflame7000 on Friday May 05, 2017 @07:51PM (#14277701)
While I agree that it should be protected under free speech, I'm not sure haranguing the president who half the country voted for while making offensive remarks with respect to the LGBT community is the best marketing ploy. Seems like if anyone should be upset it should be his employer CBS. However, paradoxically sometimes controversies actually increase ratings so they might be fine with it.
Re:FCC to investigate, 'take appropriate action' on Colbert’... by lawnchair_larry on Friday May 05, 2017 @08:40PM (#14277955)
The only comments from the LGBT community that I've seen are that they found it funny and not homophobic. It seems to be the Republicans who are calling it homophobic.
Re:FCC to investigate, 'take appropriate action' on Colbert’... by majormajor on Friday May 05, 2017 @09:28PM (#14278141)
In other areas, people get labeled as having "internalized the patriarchy" or such if they claim to find something that could've offended them unoffensive... it's always about the messenger more than the message.

The thing about this is that people aren't stupid, in the same way that a lot of people were willing to ignore Trump's misogyny. Asking "why would I care that the media is telling me it's terrible that Trump says things like this, when mainstream movies, TV, and music lyrics are full of stuff at least as bad?" is a legitimate question that nobody was even bothering to try to give them an answer to.

Re:FCC to investigate, 'take appropriate action' on Colbert’... by blackflame7000 on Friday May 05, 2017 @09:41PM (#14278198)
Exactly. People can be unbelievably obtuse when it comes to remarks the opposition makes while simultaneously showing remarkable skill in finding exculpatory facts for their own side. The media is especially guilty of sensationalizing what would otherwise be mundane statements into controversy. An example of this would be taking the phrase "you people" out of context and turning into a racial/etc issue when the intent was never there to begin with.
Re:FCC to investigate, 'take appropriate action' on Colbert’... by majormajor on Friday May 05, 2017 @09:47PM (#14278222)
I'd disagree and say "you people" is a pretty blatant one. It communicates pretty clearly an intent to paint with a really really wide brush.
Re:FCC to investigate, 'take appropriate action' on Colbert’... by blackflame7000 on Friday May 05, 2017 @10:57PM (#14278437)
So if a manager says to the office, "Some of you people need to improve your performance" and one person takes that as meaning only people of color need improvement and reports the manager, you would side with the employee?

There are many common cases where someone refers to a group of people with the intention of meaning everyone while someone in the group interprets it as referring to a subset of the group. It stems from the ambiguity of the word people and the impact of tone and body language in conveying its ultimate meaning.

Re:FCC to investigate, 'take appropriate action' on Colbert’... by jmcdiesel on Friday May 05, 2017 @09:19PM (#14278098)
The irony there...
Re:FCC to investigate, 'take appropriate action' on Colbert’... by blackflame7000 on Friday May 05, 2017 @09:26PM (#14278129)
This story was on the front page of yahoo.com, a left-centrist publication, yesterday: https://www.yahoo.com/tv/stephen-colbert-hot-water-over-homo...

In today's age its a bad bet to assume something isn't offensive to anyone.

Re:FCC to investigate, 'take appropriate action' on Colbert’... by lawnchair_larry on Friday May 05, 2017 @10:56PM (#14278435)
But that isn't what's happening here and you know it. You're a Trump supporter, that's cool, but please drop the concern trolling. You're not offended, you're just being opportunistic.
Re:FCC to investigate, 'take appropriate action' on Colbert’... by blackflame7000 on Friday May 05, 2017 @11:02PM (#14278450)
I'm not offended and never said I was. I was merely pointing out that an article citing a bunch of tweets from offended people was the cover story on yahoo yesterday, in response to a comment saying no one was offended except republicans.
Re:FCC to investigate, 'take appropriate action' on Colbert’... by lawnchair_larry on Saturday May 06, 2017 @12:06AM (#14278607)
I encourage you to take a look at those "offended" people in the yahoo story.

The first one has a twitter background that reads, "make liberalism ridiculous again" and a long list of very "right" leaning tweets.

The second is full of the same concern trolling towards other media figures with their statements taken out of context - the exact thing you're expressing frustration with in the other thread. Also a republican.

The third's twitter avatar is literally "I <3 TRUMP"

The fourth, to his credit, admits in other tweets that he is a republican, wasn't actually offended, but was just making a point (you know, the thing you're doing now).

The fifth has an avatar of Pepe the Frog, and a background of Trump stylized like Duke Nukem, holding a gun in front of the American Flag, and a pinned tweet about the "alt-left being pedophiles".

I'll summarize the rest: I checked, and every single one of them are very outspoken republicans. I think I have you dead to rights here. If there is a non-republican somewhere in this country who was offended, you definitely didn't link to a yahoo article referencing any of them. The only thing you did was validate my point.

Anyway, I know what you're doing. Your point is that the other side is constantly doing this same type of thing to Trump. I agree, and I think it's out of control. The Washington Post has become as bad as Fox News. I used to see this from the lunatic-right and wonder how certain headlines alone were not setting off their skepticism alarms. Now I'm being flooded by the same type of thing from the lunatic-left. It does not leave much room for optimism.

Re:FCC to investigate, 'take appropriate action' on Colbert’... by blackflame7000 on Saturday May 06, 2017 @10:23AM (#14280363)
What is wrong with you? I am Not yahoo.com. I did not write the article. I never endorsed any part of the article. Yahoo is a left leaning publication and they published that article, on their front page. Thus to claim right wing conspiracy doesnt make any sense because its not coming from breitbart. I seriously cant believe you spent your friday night writing an 8 paragraph response to nothing. I wasn't trying to argue anything other than a fact that there were articles on top media websites claiming outrage. Good grief.
Re:FCC to investigate, 'take appropriate action' on Colbert’... by lawnchair_larry on Saturday May 06, 2017 @02:04PM (#14281509)
> I was merely pointing out that an article citing a bunch of tweets from offended people was the cover story on yahoo yesterday, in response to a comment saying no one was offended except republicans.
Re:FCC to investigate, 'take appropriate action' on Colbert’... by mcphage on Friday May 05, 2017 @09:30PM (#14278154)
However, CBS doesn't seem particularly upset, which is why people are going to the FCC to complain instead.
Re:FCC to investigate, 'take appropriate action' on Colbert’... by Meditato on Friday May 05, 2017 @08:37PM (#14277936)
No, "half the country" did not even vote. Significantly less than half the popular vote was for Trump.
Re:FCC to investigate, 'take appropriate action' on Colbert’... by blackflame7000 on Friday May 05, 2017 @08:45PM (#14277971)
And the highest rated TV show of all time (Super Bowl XLIX) only managed to attract 115/330 million people so what's your point. Are you arguing that somehow TV viewers are far more likely to be Democrat? Is there some reason that the same distribution of voters wouldn't apply to TV as well?

The final election results were Clinton 65,844,610 Trump 62,979,636 If you call the difference significant (2.2%), then what does that make the gross value of 62 million americans that might be turned off by his rant?

Re:FCC to investigate, 'take appropriate action' on Colbert’... by AbrahamParangi on Friday May 05, 2017 @10:39PM (#14278383)
I think the point of the objection was that about 19% of Americans voted for trump, instead of "half the country".

Even if this were a strictly cynical action on Colbert's part (and I don't think it is) you could make the argument that given Trump's unpopularity you might create more value out of bashing him than you lose from his supporters.

Moreover, I suspect that Colbert's target demographics skew richer, younger, and urban/suburban so he probably has less to lose and more to gain by alienating Trump supporters anyway.

Re:FCC to investigate, 'take appropriate action' on Colbert’... by blackflame7000 on Friday May 05, 2017 @10:49PM (#14278413)
Assuming everyone that didn't vote has no political opinion, do you think that they would care about Colbert's rant? I addressed the phenomenon of paradoxical popularity reactions to controversies in my original post, but I still don't see the value of insulting anyone when you are in the business of advertising to as wide of audience as possible. Lets not forget TV is an advertisement driven business. Bill OReilly found out pretty quick that it wasn't his analysis that kept him around, it was the sponsors.