Uber faces criminal probe over software used to evade authorities

Re:Uber faces criminal probe over software used to evade aut... by BearGoesChirp on Friday May 05, 2017 @11:04AM (#14273938)

And we end up with almost every single contract including the opt out language. The majority of people don't read contracts, and many of those who do have no access to recourse to do anything other than walking away from the entire field of services. (While in theory the market should fix this by having service offers without those clauses that people who read their contract and walk away from bad ones can use, the total number who are willing to walk away are far too smaller.)

For example, look at arbitration in the US.

Want a retirement account? Arbitration clause.

Bank account? Arbitration clause.

Cell phone contract? Arbitration clause.

Insurance? Arbitration clause.

Online video game account? Arbitration clause.

And most people don't realize how one sided these are until they end up on the wrong end of the legal system.

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Re:Uber faces criminal probe over software used to evade aut... by th4dv on Friday May 05, 2017 @11:43AM (#14274251)

> the total number who are willing to walk away are far too smaller

Because people are too lazy to walk away from a bad deal or simply don't want to read the contract they're about to sign is a really poor justification.

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Re:Uber faces criminal probe over software used to evade aut... by BearGoesChirp on Friday May 05, 2017 @01:09PM (#14275001)

My point there is that so few do that the market doesn't respond to capture those who do so. The justification isn't about why, it is about the money in capturing them. Making an offer for people who want to buy cell phones without arbitration, and advertising it so those people know about the option, won't cause a positive return on investment and as such doesn't happen. It is a comment on why 'just go buy from someone who doesn't do it' isn't a solution.

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Re:Uber faces criminal probe over software used to evade aut... by linkregister on Friday May 05, 2017 @02:26PM (#14275658)

Look at th5dv, who doesn't have any Apple or Google accounts, or use a major U.S. mobile phone carrier. Otherwise, he has agreed to a binding arbitration clause.

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Re:Uber faces criminal probe over software used to evade aut... by vertex-four on Saturday May 06, 2017 @04:25AM (#14279300)

Is it really being lazy to not want to go without a bank account?

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Re:Uber faces criminal probe over software used to evade aut... by tripzilch on Friday May 05, 2017 @01:53PM (#14275391)

if you think it's about being too lazy that says a LOT more about you than them.

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Re:Uber faces criminal probe over software used to evade aut... by th4dv on Friday May 05, 2017 @03:40PM (#14276239)

Making a personal remark on someone just because (presumably) they have a different opinion on certain matters is pretty low.

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