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Re:Wrapping up Java 9 new Features by lmm on Thursday May 04, 2017 @12:39PM (#14266295)
The IDE is good. Eclipselink is fine.
Re:Wrapping up Java 9 new Features by agumonkey on Thursday May 04, 2017 @01:08PM (#14266603)
I felt it was hog, slow, and the interal API is a maze. Also the virtual fs layer ...
Re:Wrapping up Java 9 new Features by lmm on Thursday May 04, 2017 @02:48PM (#14267574)
It's big and slow, agreed, but it is very powerful. I don't know the details of the virtual FS layer but I can sympathise because that's very difficult to get right in a cross-platform way.
Re:Wrapping up Java 9 new Features by agumonkey on Thursday May 04, 2017 @04:08PM (#14268291)
I don't think it's powerful. As fanatic as it seems, emacs is more powerful for real work. It's more human and more theoretical than Eclipse, which is a "usine a gaz" more than anything. It doesn't bring performance, nor ease of use, or stability. I don't get it.
Re:Wrapping up Java 9 new Features by lmm on Friday May 05, 2017 @06:35AM (#14272417)
The graphical views are useful, and the wide range of plugins comes in very handy. I could never get on with the emacs interface - it just wasn't discoverable enough - YMMV I guess.
Re:Wrapping up Java 9 new Features by agumonkey on Friday May 05, 2017 @09:29AM (#14273256)
Discoverability in emacs is a tiny bootstrap problem. I have to admit that for years I didn't know how to ask emacs, but when you do (C-h m, C-h k), there's no more discoverability problem.