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Re:Fake IDs in the age of the internet by mootothemax on Wednesday May 03, 2017 @11:01AM (#14256237)
>The mass use of fake IDs of this sort is a bizarrely American problem. In the UK, you're considered an adult at age 18. Most (aside from the unfortunate 17-year-olds) university students can legally purchase alcohol, smoke, or gamble if they so choose.

In the late 90s, when I was 16-17 and doing my A levels in the South East, plenty of people had fake "Prove It" cards and the like.

If you wanted to grab a drink at anything but the most desperate of pubs or go out in e.g. Brighton, you didn't have a hope unless you could prove your age.

Funnily enough, I knew plenty of 18 and 19 year olds that also used fake IDs, just because getting a more legitimate form of ID was a bigger pain than they could be bothered with - and taking your passport out seemed a bit over the top.

I dunno, maybe I just hung out with the wrong crowd?

Re:Fake IDs in the age of the internet by Someone1234 on Wednesday May 03, 2017 @12:36PM (#14257403)
That's one thing the scrapped national ID Card scheme may have helped with.

A lot of teens aren't learning to drive in the UK anymore due to the high cost and quality of public transport in cities. So they by extension don't get a driving license until well into their 20s (if at all). So their choice was either, as you said, take out your passport (dangerous/impractical) or use a fake ID.

That's why they had to create the PASS scheme (Proof of Age Standards Scheme)[0][1]. In essence it is a non-driving licence/non-national ID card, card which only exists to prove your age. It costs £15, but that's still cheap relative to getting a driving licence (inc. test/cost to learn £200+) or replacing a lost passport (£72.50).

It is a good scheme.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proof_of_Age_Standards_Scheme

[1] https://www.validateuk.co.uk/official-UK-ID-Card

Re:Fake IDs in the age of the internet by ams6110 on Wednesday May 03, 2017 @05:21PM (#14260229)
Most(?) US states have an "ID" card option you can get instead of a driver's license. It's official proof of age etc. but does not confer any driving privileges, and it's a bit less expensive. No need for the Feds to have to manage this.
Re:Fake IDs in the age of the internet by arprocter on Wednesday May 03, 2017 @11:09AM (#14256305)
We would go drinking in pubs by ourselves at 14, but that was a small northern town without a university.

We knew the places which wouldn't ask, and it helped if you're tall

Re:Fake IDs in the age of the internet by SmellyGeekBoy on Wednesday May 03, 2017 @02:34PM (#14258726)
> I dunno, maybe I just hung out with the wrong crowd?

You and me both. I remember going out "in town" drinking and watching live bands from the age of 14, fake ID in hand. Pretty much all of my friends had them. Good times.