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Re:The Boring Company [video] by aaron-lebo on Friday April 28, 2017 @09:15PM (#14224423)
edit: don't feel like arguing. Best of luck to Musk.
Re:The Boring Company [video] by darawk on Friday April 28, 2017 @09:23PM (#14224465)
> The Hyperloop was supposed to be a revolutionary form of transport, turns out it was overblown.

He didn't launch the Hyperloop, though. He explicitly said he wasn't personally going to pursue it, he was just putting the idea out there. You can't put the fact that it hasn't yet been implemented (even though there are people working on it) on him. I've seen no evidence that the concept is infeasible, or poorly thought out.

Re:The Boring Company [video] by jodrellblank on Friday April 28, 2017 @11:26PM (#14224881)
It is infeasible, if it's going to be vacuum, for a pile of practical and safety reasons:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNFesa01llk

Maybe it will pivot into something not-as-originally-hyped by the same name.

Re:The Boring Company [video] by anko on Saturday April 29, 2017 @10:24PM (#14229879)
Thunderf00t always comes up in these discussions - here's a counter video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kx52A-v65Q8

Re:The Boring Company [video] by mdekkers on Saturday April 29, 2017 @10:03AM (#14226619)
What a terrible video. "I can't imagine anybody can make this work, so it is absolutely impossible"
Re:The Boring Company [video] by jodrellblank on Saturday April 29, 2017 @02:53PM (#14228102)
Did you miss the bit where he says the idea of travelling fast in a vacuum is fundamentally sound and workable?

Did you miss the bit where he never at all claimed it was 'impossible', only that it was bullshit that it would be doable within two orders of magnitude of the claimed price, with the claimed speed advantages, or with any acceptable amount of safety?

What a terrible misrepresentation of the video.

Re:The Boring Company [video] by darawk on Monday May 01, 2017 @12:14PM (#14238812)
Ya, but he doesn't actually justify his position. And to the extent that he does, his calculations are inaccurate. The only legitimate criticism he makes is the one about depressurization (all the others are trivial and can be solved trivially in ways that have already been addressed in the whitepaper). And fotunately for the hyperloop, his calculations on that one issue are off by six orders of magnitude, per the videos that respond to his video.
Re:The Boring Company [video] by haberman on Friday April 28, 2017 @09:32PM (#14224501)
> The fact that people feel the need to defend unfinished (and very unproven) projects of a billionaire says a lot.

The fact that people think they can spend two seconds evaluating and dismissing an engineering idea from someone who literally sends things into space is hilarious.

> If you live by hype at some point you gotta start delivering.

If putting cars on the road and rockets on the launchpad doesn't count as "delivering", I don't know what does.

Re:The Boring Company [video] by Denzel on Friday April 28, 2017 @09:37PM (#14224521)
Where have you been exactly? He receives the hype precisely because he has delivered after people insisted he couldn't.

He and his companies have delivered the Falcon, Model S, Modex X, and a concept Model 3 set to be delivered soon, along with a Falcon Heavy.

If any person were able to deliver even one of those products, they'd be deserving of attention. And that's not even everything he's delivered.

If delivering three groundbreaking products (as in you can go out and use them right now) is hype, then I think maybe you need to revise your definition of "hype".

Re:The Boring Company [video] by stupidhn on Saturday April 29, 2017 @05:50AM (#14225796)
The SpaceX stuff is actually amazing.

The Tesla stuff is over-hyped by people who think that it's currently the global leader in everything they do, be it manufacturing or self-driving tech. In reality, the EV space is competitive as all get out and Tesla is a pretty small player.

The boring stuff? I have no idea.

Re:The Boring Company [video] by CamperBob2 on Friday April 28, 2017 @10:07PM (#14224642)
If you live by hype at some point you gotta start delivering (edit: this is overstated, but whatever).

He's delivering to the freakin' International Space Station. What have you delivered lately?

Re:The Boring Company [video] by alain94040 on Friday April 28, 2017 @09:29PM (#14224492)
> Musk is a master of hype. > If you live by hype at some point you gotta start delivering

In your book, Musk hasn't delivered enough yet? But why am I arguing with a Ph.D student. I wish you that your life is as fullfilled as Musk's.

Re:The Boring Company [video] by Inconel on Friday April 28, 2017 @09:27PM (#14224479)
>The fact that people feel the need to defend unfinished projects of a billionaire says a lot.

I'm confused as to who exactly you're referencing here seeing as Musk has no stake in any of the hyperloop companies currently operating.

Re:The Boring Company [video] by psyc on Saturday April 29, 2017 @12:35AM (#14225067)
You don't have an argument.