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Re:Setting Up HTTP(S) Load Balancing – WebSocket proxy support by stephenr on Wednesday April 26, 2017 @01:33PM (#14205131)
> Functional parity isn't all that matters. Reliability, security, performance, ops overhead and cost make a big difference.

You're arguing that a "cloud" solution must be more secure, and that this is very important, but when I point out that the exact multi-tenant zero-customer-control setup you are championing, led to a massive leak of data that people everywhere assumed was private, your response is:

> So what if cloudflare had an issue? There are thousands of security issues every day, it's a fact of life.

> It seems you have some irrational hatred for cloud and managed services

No. I have a strong dislike of people cargo-culting the fucking shit out of whatever cool kid buzzword they last heard, without a clue what the alternatives are, if they even need it, or what the consequences of their choices are.

> I'd much rather invest in and trust them than have you run my infrastructure and waste time building some fragile load balancing system

I won't lose any sleep over not getting your business. As you have all the answers already, what you're looking for, is called a "yes-man".

Re:Setting Up HTTP(S) Load Balancing – WebSocket proxy support by manigandham on Wednesday April 26, 2017 @03:06PM (#14205984)
That's not how security works either. A single event does not mean something is insecure. As said before, mistakes and security holes happen every day. The totality of the situation is that Cloudflare is still more secure than you because they are better resourced with more people, time, money, connections, hardware and processes. Same with load balancing, which is not a buzzword, and something Google does better than you ever will.

I look for people who understand business trade-offs, how to effectively spend time and money, have a proper understanding of risk, and know when a specialized vendor is a better for non-mainline business functions.

What exactly are you going to do when you find a hole in the load balancing software you use? Or do you write that software yourself too? What about the OS? What about the hardware? What about the datacenter? What about the transit fiber? Do you just build your own internet then? No matter what you do, you're trusting other vendors at some point.

The only possibility is to look at the entire situation and assess the risks and costs - which from this conversation seems to be your biggest problem.