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Re:Uber gets sued over alleged ‘Hell’ program to track Lyft ... by vkou on Monday April 24, 2017 @08:01PM (#14189620)
I just send the rockets up, where they come down is not my department.

Why do people build weapons? Why do people pay taxes, that are used to fund immoral actions? Why do people provide services to immoral actors? Typically, the answer is money.

Re:Uber gets sued over alleged ‘Hell’ program to track Lyft ... by saghm on Monday April 24, 2017 @08:21PM (#14189724)
> Why do people pay taxes, that are used to fund immoral actions? ... Typically, the answer is money.

That seems like a stretch; people pay their taxes because they don't want to go to prison, not because of money. If anything, money would be an incentive not to pay your taxes, so it seems obvious that there's something stronger than money at play there.

Re:Uber gets sued over alleged ‘Hell’ program to track Lyft ... by pikzen on Tuesday April 25, 2017 @03:05AM (#14191375)
Or, in not-libertarian-land, people pay taxes because they enjoy having access to public services such as police, fire departments, working roads, water, etc.
Re:Uber gets sued over alleged ‘Hell’ program to track Lyft ... by metaphorm on Tuesday April 25, 2017 @10:52AM (#14194034)
the two positions aren't even a little contradictory. people pay taxes BOTH because they want to comply with the law (avoid prosecution) and because they value public services (some of them anyway).

similarly, there is nuance in each position. self-preservation motivates avoidance of prosecution, but it doesn't prevent individuals and companies from seeking the most effective legal means to avoid taxes, which sometimes is in a grey area w.r.t law and ethics. as well we should consider that while some public services are considered good and desirable, many of them aren't, and which is good and which is not is a judgment that varies heavily between individuals.

this isn't libertarian-land "taxes are theft" stuff. this is the basic social contract that everyone, libertarians and their opponents, all abide by.

Re:Uber gets sued over alleged ‘Hell’ program to track Lyft ... by saghm on Tuesday April 25, 2017 @12:19PM (#14194986)
Oh, don't get me wrong, I certainly feel a strong sense of civic duty to pay taxes, and I completely understand the benefit that comes from them. But from conversations with other people, I get the feeling that a large number of people would not pay taxes if they knew they could get away with this. Of course, now that I verbalize this, I'm realizing this could just be a sampling bias, as people who aren't upset about paying taxes are probably less likely to start a conversation about them.
Re:Uber gets sued over alleged ‘Hell’ program to track Lyft ... by idoh on Monday April 24, 2017 @08:18PM (#14189706)
On the tax side, we neither have control over whether to pay taxes nor how it is spent, so that's not a reasonable example.
Re:Uber gets sued over alleged ‘Hell’ program to track Lyft ... by vkou on Monday April 24, 2017 @08:29PM (#14189766)
You could always move to a country which does not spend your money on behavior you object to.
Re:Uber gets sued over alleged ‘Hell’ program to track Lyft ... by toomuchtodo on Monday April 24, 2017 @08:48PM (#14189873)
Or take advantage of tax deductions and credits in your country so as to reduce or even eliminate your tax liability:

US-specific:

* EV credit: $7500

* Solar panels on your roof: 30% federal tax credit (some states have incentives as well)

* Mortgage interest/insurance

* Educational expenses

* Charity contributions

* Tax loss harvesting of non-tax advantaged investment accounts

Some of the above require itemizing.

Re:Uber gets sued over alleged ‘Hell’ program to track Lyft ... by bdcravens on Monday April 24, 2017 @08:44PM (#14189845)
Are saying stakeholders aren't communicating the use case to the developers implementing these solutions?