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Re:Systemd-free Devuan announces its first stable release ca... by mdekkers on Saturday April 22, 2017 @05:51PM (#14175023)
I mean who in their right mind would write a 27 line init script when they could write a 7 line systemd unit?

That is a gross and asinine misrepresentation of the impact of systemd.

Re:Systemd-free Devuan announces its first stable release ca... by INTPenis on Sunday April 23, 2017 @06:32AM (#14177536)
Not from my viewpoint. I'm the one installing the packages and writing the occasional unit/override unit in my daily work.

I don't see those complex use cases systemd critics often point to. I mostly see the fact that I get to maintain a few lines of ini-style configuration instead of many lines of bash.

Re:Systemd-free Devuan announces its first stable release ca... by mdekkers on Sunday April 23, 2017 @06:41AM (#14177551)
Re:Systemd-free Devuan announces its first stable release ca... by INTPenis on Monday April 24, 2017 @02:24AM (#14182297)
I'm sorry but those links are no good argument to me.

I've already commented on the fact that MariaDB service unit is 173 lines of ini-style configuration with most of the lines commented for example purposes.

So I'd still gladly trade many lines of bash for hundreds of lines of ini-config.

And sure some projects still depend on shell script wrapping, I myself did for many python services that I run in virtualenv. But I learned more about systemd and eventually could get rid of all shell script wrappers.

But even in a worst case scenario where some project might have to use shell script wrapping, it's still better than ALL projects using 100% shell script.