Devuan Jessie 1.0.0 stable release candidate

Re:Devuan Jessie 1.0.0 stable release candidate by helb on Saturday April 22, 2017 @02:05PM (#14173761)

"Devuan Jessie 1.0 RC" on HN yesterday: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14167447

For those who forgot what Devuan was, like i did – basically a Debian fork without systemd.

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Re:Devuan Jessie 1.0.0 stable release candidate by nextos on Saturday April 22, 2017 @02:18PM (#14173850)

For systemd-less distros, I really like GuixSD. A functional approach & Scheme for all stuff is a big plus.

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Re:Devuan Jessie 1.0.0 stable release candidate by zzalpha on Saturday April 22, 2017 @05:04PM (#14174777)

A functional approach & Scheme for all stuff is a big plus.

I'll bite.

Why?

Being "functional" and using "Scheme for all stuff" is just a means to an end. What value does it bring me as a user or administrator?

Because I can think of at least one obvious downside: Scheme has no mainstream adoption. So they've picked a niche language (yes Scheme is niche) that users now have to learn.

So the value it brings, in terms of features, maintainability, etc, better be significant in order to justify that pain.

And I'm talking real value, not the value of intellectual rigor or functional purity. I'm talking about actual, real, tangible features that can't be gotten anywhere else.

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Re:Devuan Jessie 1.0.0 stable release candidate by nextos on Saturday April 22, 2017 @05:09PM (#14174819)

Functional administration, not just implementation.

Most sysadmin operations are non-destructive. This has huge implications.

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Re:Devuan Jessie 1.0.0 stable release candidate by zzalpha on Saturday April 22, 2017 @05:13PM (#14174843)

Care to elaborate? This is a very vague statement taken in its own, and the GuixSD website does no better at explaining their real life value prop...

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Re:Devuan Jessie 1.0.0 stable release candidate by nextos on Sunday April 23, 2017 @12:47PM (#14178920)

All system configuration and packages are described declaratively. You can roll back and forth between system definitions.

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Re:Devuan Jessie 1.0.0 stable release candidate by jakeogh on Saturday April 22, 2017 @06:27PM (#14175202)

Gentoo also works with or without systemd, and the dev's maintain a nice udev replacement, eudev.

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Re:Devuan Jessie 1.0.0 stable release candidate by petre on Sunday April 23, 2017 @01:30AM (#14176692)

Yes but you need to compile everything. Gentoo is like a lab distro. OpenRC and eudev are nice things that came out of that lab.

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Re:Devuan Jessie 1.0.0 stable release candidate by jakeogh on Sunday April 23, 2017 @04:46AM (#14177202)

True, but I rarely notice. You can set buildpkg to keep the binary packages around for new deployments if necessary. It's not LFS:)

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Re:Devuan Jessie 1.0.0 stable release candidate by eikenberry on Saturday April 22, 2017 @04:24PM (#14174548)

Not really a fork, more of a child/derivative distribution. Hard to call them a fork when >99.9% of their packages are straight from Debian.

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