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Re:For First Time Since 1800s, Britain Goes a Day Without Bu... by nbevans on Saturday April 22, 2017 @10:50AM (#14172792)
He was being sarcastic... He wasn't shocked; he was mocking the idea that Russia caused Brexit. They didn't. The UK citizens themselves voted for Brexit because they're fed up with all the shit the EU brings with it.
Re:For First Time Since 1800s, Britain Goes a Day Without Bu... by kelnage on Saturday April 22, 2017 @11:04AM (#14172862)
Except that's a terrible argument (I wasn't swayed by Russian interference, therefore no-one was). Yes, the citizens of the UK voted (just) for Brexit - because it was a referendum - that's how they work (assuming no ballot stuffing etc). Would everyone have voted the same way without the (alleged) interference? Possibly not.
Re:For First Time Since 1800s, Britain Goes a Day Without Bu... by dageshi on Saturday April 22, 2017 @11:39AM (#14173016)
There was no talk about russian involvement in brexit until after Trump was elected then suddenly it was jumped upon as another reason why brexit was obviously "unjust".
Re:For First Time Since 1800s, Britain Goes a Day Without Bu... by nextweek2 on Sunday April 23, 2017 @10:16AM (#14178234)
That is blatantly false. The weaponising of refugees was talked about before brexit:

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=russian+bombing+syria+caus...

Re:For First Time Since 1800s, Britain Goes a Day Without Bu... by nextweek2 on Sunday April 23, 2017 @10:09AM (#14178207)
You were probably swayed by Russian influence. Let me explain how:

Russia unhappy with the EU, decided to join the Syrian war (after years). They bomb the crap out of civilians and trigger the largest refuge migration Europe has ever seen.

The numbers are so big that nobody is prepared, Germany decides to take the high ground and allow them in.

This triggered a fear in the UK that our borders are unchecked and other EU countries have control over them.

The fact is that Russia, the UK and the USA have been playing proxy wars like this for decades.

Re:For First Time Since 1800s, Britain Goes a Day Without Bu... by nbevans on Saturday April 22, 2017 @11:16AM (#14172924)
There was no Russian interference though. Show us a microgram of evidence? Even Infowars-style speculative evidence would be permissable at this point?
Re:For First Time Since 1800s, Britain Goes a Day Without Bu... by narrowrail on Saturday April 22, 2017 @04:47PM (#14174680)
While agree with you to some extent, do you think propagandists have somewhat recently realized how to exploit current communications tech to deploy their message(s)? If the financials of FB and GOOG tell us anything, it's that advertising on the internet is very effective, and advertising is just corporate propaganda. Most people just don't have the time/interest/energy to fact check, and many are just out to confirm their preconceived ideas/ whatever helps assuage their sense of guilt.
Re:For First Time Since 1800s, Britain Goes a Day Without Bu... by malza on Monday April 24, 2017 @09:02AM (#14183942)
It goes both ways though. The EU funds all sorts of groups, in particular NGOs. Those groups then do publicity stunts and pay for advertising during important events. There's so many players on the scene that there's little point blaming one single entity - doing so means you are just playing into the hands of the other guys. If the media start hyping something en mass then treat it with suspicion.
Re:For First Time Since 1800s, Britain Goes a Day Without Bu... by narrowrail on Tuesday April 25, 2017 @08:25PM (#14199502)
>If the media start hyping something en mass then treat it with suspicion.

We completely agree on that. I like to dig into sources and refine my opinions all the time. I'm glad to be /around/ other people that just have different conclusions and/or perspectives given the same set of facts.