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Re:Tesla's Musk Paid at Least $593M in Income Taxes in 2016 by neaanopri on Friday April 21, 2017 @02:55PM (#14168287)
A narrow and literal reading of events makes Musk the richest african american. It's pretty depressing the richest african american is white
Re:Tesla's Musk Paid at Least $593M in Income Taxes in 2016 by gotodengo on Friday April 21, 2017 @03:10PM (#14168439)
I'm not trying to deny the (until very recently legally enforced) class difference between whites and blacks in South Africa, nor the social issues causing hiring discrepancies in the States.

However, it's not a narrow reading of events. Musk is African. Head a bit out of the way in South Africa and you'll find white kids who spend all day running around with black friends with the whole group speaking fluent Zulu. They've grown up there and their families have been there for generations.

Re:Tesla's Musk Paid at Least $593M in Income Taxes in 2016 by bmmayer1 on Friday April 21, 2017 @03:42PM (#14168752)
The problem here lies with the imprecise term 'African American', a designation which, according to customary usage, includes many native-born Americans who have never been to Africa, as well as excludes many native-born Africans (like Musk) who are also Americans.
Re:Tesla's Musk Paid at Least $593M in Income Taxes in 2016 by gla8 on Friday April 21, 2017 @05:21PM (#14169522)
As a thought experiment, if you define Americans as those with natural rights, then every human being on Earth could be considered African American.

Although I've met a surprising number of intelligent people who somehow do not believe we are all descended from Africa. Which I suppose is related to people failing to understand that all individuals have innate inalienable rights, regardless of their citizenship.

Re:Tesla's Musk Paid at Least $593M in Income Taxes in 2016 by bmmayer1 on Friday April 21, 2017 @07:03PM (#14170132)
Sure, we're all descended from Africa. But we all know that ethnographic definitions are arbitrary, and how long ago you or your ancestors immigrated apply more or less to your demographic label depending on a host of cultural, social or economic factors. The definitions are convenient only in labeling populations in broad strokes anyway; every individual has multiple ethnic, religious, cultural, racial identities that can be sliced/defined/labeled any way that society deems 'normal'...
Re:Tesla's Musk Paid at Least $593M in Income Taxes in 2016 by adventured on Friday April 21, 2017 @03:38PM (#14168717)
> Musk is African

Actually, since we're being technical about it, he's American-Canadian-African. How else to define it? One could say African born, certainly.

He has lived in the US longer than he lived in South Africa at this point. He hated South Africa according to his brother, and sought to flee as soon as he could. He considers himself an American and has stated so on numerous occasions.

Re:Tesla's Musk Paid at Least $593M in Income Taxes in 2016 by drewrv on Friday April 21, 2017 @03:00PM (#14168334)
Silicon Valley employs so few blacks that even our Africans are white.
Re:Tesla's Musk Paid at Least $593M in Income Taxes in 2016 by bekimdisha on Friday April 21, 2017 @02:57PM (#14168310)
Why is that depressing? ...
Re:Tesla's Musk Paid at Least $593M in Income Taxes in 2016 by snowpanda on Friday April 21, 2017 @04:07PM (#14168989)
You haven't gotten the memo? Racism is ok if it's against whites.
Re:Tesla's Musk Paid at Least $593M in Income Taxes in 2016 by niroze on Friday April 21, 2017 @03:02PM (#14168362)
A lot of Africans are white, especially ones settled and controlled by Brits at some point.
Re:Tesla's Musk Paid at Least $593M in Income Taxes in 2016 by Cyph0n on Friday April 21, 2017 @03:28PM (#14168604)
Not to mention North Africans (Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, Libya) and Egyptians. I'm a Tunisian-American, but I obviously select "white" in demographic questionnaires. I heard that the U.S. Census Bureau is planning to introduce a Arab/Middle Eastern category in the near future.
Re:Tesla's Musk Paid at Least $593M in Income Taxes in 2016 by natoliniak on Friday April 21, 2017 @04:25PM (#14169118)
oh man, human "race" is such a complicated concept....as an example, Zidane who is Algerian descent by all means would be considered "white" in the USA...but then he is also an African who was born and grew up in Europe.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bc/XI...

Re:Tesla's Musk Paid at Least $593M in Income Taxes in 2016 by Theodores on Friday April 21, 2017 @03:47PM (#14168820)
In the UK there are lots and lots of people from South Africa, Zimbabwe and other places where things may have been good for their 'baby boomer' parents that got rich in deeply racist times, but for kids today?

If you are in your 20's or 30's or even 40's then having white skin in South Africa has not had the same advantages as before, there has been government legislation to make the place a bit more equal opportunity, which means to the younger people in South Africa that, if you are white, it is time to claim some type of UK passport (maybe based on some grandfather that was Scottish).

I am no defender of Apartheid but the ruling baby boomer white class essentially retired and threw their own children under the bus.

Re:Tesla's Musk Paid at Least $593M in Income Taxes in 2016 by blahman2 on Friday April 21, 2017 @03:35PM (#14168682)
it is even more depressing to read what racists like you have to say everywhere
Re:Tesla's Musk Paid at Least $593M in Income Taxes in 2016 by snowpanda on Friday April 21, 2017 @04:06PM (#14168986)
Agreed, some people need to make everything about color.