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Re:Why is Russia so good at encouraging women into tech? by smokeyj on Friday April 21, 2017 @09:27AM (#14165345)
If women are represented in the rest of STEM but not the T - doesn't that challenge the narrative of "social conditioning" being the root cause?

What I mean is, there isn't anyone out there telling women that physics is cool whereas programming is not. My bet is that anyone encouraging their little girl to be a physicists would be equally enthused about electrical engineering.. but I could be wrong.

I think when people decide what a good career would be, they're going off what little knowledge they have. And programmers aren't displayed on TV as big earners - but rather scrawny stinky anti-social dorks. And sadly there's a source of truth to this..

Software just isn't cool. It's actually pretty un-cool. I don't know how to change that.

Re:Why is Russia so good at encouraging women into tech? by ForHackernews on Friday April 21, 2017 @10:58AM (#14166145)
> doesn't that challenge the narrative of "social conditioning" being the root cause?

> Software just isn't cool. It's actually pretty un-cool. I don't know how to change that.

I don't see how you find this to be a conflict. If software is presented as "uncool", is that not social conditioning?

Re:Why is Russia so good at encouraging women into tech? by yorwba on Friday April 21, 2017 @10:40AM (#14165977)
> Software just isn't cool. It's actually pretty un-cool. I don't know how to change that.

I'm currently as an exchange student in China, and every time I tell someone that I'm studying CS, they are like "Oh my god, that's so cool!".

Somehow I'm still completely surprised when I hear that reaction. I have no idea what causes this perception, I need to remember to ask next time.

The gender distribution in my classes is still 90%+ male, though. Somehow the different image of the field does not translate into more female students.