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Re:Proposal to start a new implementation of Thunderbird bas... by ams6110 on Thursday April 20, 2017 @09:34PM (#14162445)
I guess we all have our opinions but if you are composing long emails with intricate formatting I'd suggest you're doing it wrong. Email messages should be short, and preferably plain text. You have a little more leeway than in a tweet, but more than a paragraph or so and you lose the reader. I see this so often -- people will send me a treatise in email and I simply cannot comprehend that much text on a computer screen. So it's either print it, or skip it. Guess what happens most often?

If you need to write something lengthy and heavily formatted, do it in a Google Doc or blog post and put a link in your email.

Re:Proposal to start a new implementation of Thunderbird bas... by hilbert42 on Friday April 21, 2017 @10:53AM (#14166099)
With respect, it is some time since I've read the various email RFCs (822/2822/1123 etc.), but I cannot recall any of these email standards saying that emails (a) have to be short and (b) that formatting doesn't matter. In fact, there are numbers of RFC standards that actually specify the standards for text formatting, for example, the Multipurpose Internet Mail Extensions (MIME) standards have allowed 'rich text' formatting in emails for years now.

Thus, to be compliant, email clients should comply with these email standards—this means their editors should also format text to those standards. I contend that there is indisputable evidence that Thunderbird does not fully comply with these internet standards by a considerable margin (nor has it ever done so). Moreover, in parts, Thunderbird is so bad/non-compliant that it is essentially not fit for purpose.

This has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with the fact that some users will only ever use a subset of those features [standards] when composing emails.

As long as users comply with the email standards, they are entitled to use any formatting they so desire. Whilst many emails are short, the fact is that there are those who often send highly formatted emails of many pages in length.

As fauigerzigerk says, in many instances, attachments are often not suitable so they must be sent in-line. This then requires the editor to handle in-line text/images etc. correctly (Thunderbird does not do this without fault).

Re:Proposal to start a new implementation of Thunderbird bas... by fauigerzigerk on Friday April 21, 2017 @08:11AM (#14164768)
It's exactly the other way around for me. Any text that isn't directly in the email will either get ignored or I won't reply in as much detail as I would have. It's much more difficult to quote selectively from attached files so I don't do it.

And printing is about the most horrible thing ever invented. I only do it under threat of financial loss (return labels, letters to tax authorities). There's nothing as broken as printing. It never works flawlessly and I can't focus on printed text anyway.

Printed text has no search, no copy and paste, no changing font sizes or brightness, no hands free reading, no place to put paper without it getting fatty or full of coffee stains.

So I guess the conclusion has to be that there is no general right or wrong when it comes to the length of text in email. I depends on who you are sending it to. I pity whoever has to correspond with the both of us :-)

Re:Proposal to start a new implementation of Thunderbird bas... by vacri on Thursday April 20, 2017 @10:57PM (#14162781)
A paragraph or so these days is best sent in chat. We use email more for reference stuff in our setup (because searching for references in chat is terrible...)
Re:Proposal to start a new implementation of Thunderbird bas... by flukus on Thursday April 20, 2017 @11:03PM (#14162804)
Chat is for when there is someone on the other side listening, it's like a conversation but in text. Email is for when there is more asymmetry, the other person may or may not be there and an immediate response is not expected (shouldn't be anyway).
Re:Proposal to start a new implementation of Thunderbird bas... by ksk on Thursday April 20, 2017 @11:49PM (#14162976)
Could you explain how using the features of a product is "doing it wrong"? The only thing wrong would be the bugs in the features themselves.