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Re:A new upstream project to break up Docker into independen... by cptskippy on Thursday April 20, 2017 @12:59PM (#14158484)
>> or is this whole endeavor to break away from linux dependencies?

> Moby works great with Linux and will continue to. In fact you can build a complete custom Linux system with Moby, thanks to LinuxKit. (But you can also target an existing Linux system, LinuxKit is optional).

I think the question was more along the lines of "Are these changes being made to add support for other Operating Systems?" and less "Are you abandoning Linux?"

I don't think anyone was questioning your commitment to Linux, though I kind of am now because of how defensive that non-answer was.

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Re:A new upstream project to break up Docker into independen... by finid on Thursday April 20, 2017 @01:49PM (#14159033)
Somehow I feel that with this announcement and his (defensive) answers to simple questions that call for clarification, that the interest in rkt just went up some.
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Re:A new upstream project to break up Docker into independen... by lprd on Thursday April 20, 2017 @01:59PM (#14159131)
Honestly, I wish rkt would get some more momentum. In my opinion it's superior to Docker.
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Re:A new upstream project to break up Docker into independen... by ohdrat on Thursday April 20, 2017 @02:32PM (#14159446)
where's the Rocket Hub? Seriously how long is Docker Hub expected to float up there? Some are good quality, all the versions of tomcat for example. How long can such quality continue to exist?
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Re:A new upstream project to break up Docker into independen... by dln_eintr on Thursday April 20, 2017 @03:39PM (#14160082)
That would be https://quay.io/ , but also the internet. Since rkt (or appc discovery rather) just relies on DNS/URL hierarchy to refer to images. Any web server can be a "registry".

OCI doesn't have an equivalent to discovery yet, but presumably it'll be something similar to the appc spec (https://github.com/appc/spec/blob/master/spec/discovery.md)

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Re:A new upstream project to break up Docker into independen... by cyphar on Thursday April 20, 2017 @07:06PM (#14161689)
I'm one of the people working in the OCI community. Discovery/distribution is something that I care alot about personally and the whole "any web server can be a registry" idea is definitely where I want OCI to go with this. As someone who helps develop a distribution (openSUSE / SUSE Linux Enterprise) my opinion is that the current state of distribution really needs to be improved.

I also recently talked to some CoreOS devs at Dockercon and have started considering extending rkt to better support OCI runtimes (and images though images are "supported" at the moment). Exciting times.

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Re:A new upstream project to break up Docker into independen... by Artemis2 on Thursday April 20, 2017 @03:41PM (#14160098)
There's https://quay.io but it doesn't really function as a marketplace for official images (except the ones from CoreOS).

I wish the market of container images had more competition. Right now there's Docker Hub/Quay (expensive, lots of features) and Amazon ECR/Google Container Registry (cheap, few features).

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Re:A new upstream project to break up Docker into independen... by philips on Thursday April 20, 2017 @09:14PM (#14162322)
rkt runs docker images and OCI images. https://coreos.com/rkt/docs/latest/running-docker-images.htm...
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Re:A new upstream project to break up Docker into independen... by shykes on Thursday April 20, 2017 @06:04PM (#14161324)
> I think the question was more along the lines of "Are these changes being made to add support for other Operating Systems?" and less "Are you abandoning Linux?"

I see. Looks like I had misunderstood.

Yes, being able to target more different platforms is one of the reason for the change.

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Re:A new upstream project to break up Docker into independen... by tannhaeuser on Thursday April 20, 2017 @06:32PM (#14161490)
Docker the company looking into other host OSs would make sense to me for two reasons:

- RedHat eating Docker's lunch, and dominating Linux development

- the somewhat questionable practice of using Docker as a GPL-circumvention device (eg. commercial images pulling a Debian/Ubuntu userland on first load), though I'm unsure about the legal implications

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