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Re:I supported legalizing all drugs, then the opioid epidemi... by TerminalJunkie on Thursday April 20, 2017 @11:12AM (#14157368)
If you were able to get drugs from a pharmacy or dispensary or a regulated service, there would't (hopefully) be a black market to supply the drugs which creates untold violence.

I have a completely untested theory that the number of deaths would be less with a well regulated legalization of drugs than with an unregulated black market where gangs and organized crime supply the demand for illicit substances.

Re:I supported legalizing all drugs, then the opioid epidemi... by arprocter on Thursday April 20, 2017 @11:36AM (#14157604)
Portugal decriminalized in 2001 and guess what happened[0]

[0]https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/06/05/why-h...

Re:I supported legalizing all drugs, then the opioid epidemi... by qbrass on Thursday April 20, 2017 @11:41AM (#14157652)
There's already a black market for prescription drugs.

Because there's still a barrier to access, providing a way around it still provides profit.

Re:I supported legalizing all drugs, then the opioid epidemi... by NotSammyHagar on Thursday April 20, 2017 @12:33PM (#14158207)
There's a black market because most people can't just get a prescription from a doctor, they have to lie or get someone else's drugs, there isn't enough legal availability to rule it out.
Re:I supported legalizing all drugs, then the opioid epidemi... by bluedino on Thursday April 20, 2017 @11:15AM (#14157401)
>> If you were able to get drugs from a pharmacy or dispensary or a regulated service, there would't (hopefully) be a black market

Medical marijuana is legal where I live, you can buy it at a regulated service, however there are plenty of people who still buy it on the street or produce more than they are legally able to and sell the excess.

Re:I supported legalizing all drugs, then the opioid epidemi... by toolz on Thursday April 20, 2017 @11:19AM (#14157447)
Yeah, then the black market goes from some cartel pipeline to someone in your neighborhood. There's a huge difference in regards to funding violence.
Re:I supported legalizing all drugs, then the opioid epidemi... by nannal on Thursday April 20, 2017 @11:29AM (#14157539)
Except Joe who grows weed in his cupboard isn't really capable of producing heroin let alone the extraordinarily dangerous opium derivatives that pharmaceutical are pushing on doctors.
Re:I supported legalizing all drugs, then the opioid epidemi... by nnfy on Thursday April 20, 2017 @11:45AM (#14157701)
If Joe can grow weed in his cupboard, he absolutely can grow poppies and produce opium. The process is not complex.
Re:I supported legalizing all drugs, then the opioid epidemi... by narrowrail on Thursday April 20, 2017 @12:02PM (#14157878)
The required acreage to yield opium in significant quantities is way beyond a closet (or even a basement). Not to mention that heroin is ~1% of total opium weight.
Re:I supported legalizing all drugs, then the opioid epidemi... by nnfy on Thursday April 20, 2017 @12:19PM (#14158074)
If we're talking about Joe's personal use, a single poppy plant produces multiple doses, according to this[1] reference and some anecdotal drug forum dose suggestions, on the order of tens of mg.

1.https://erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/opium.html

Re:I supported legalizing all drugs, then the opioid epidemi... by narrowrail on Thursday April 20, 2017 @04:28PM (#14160538)
>produces multiple doses

Could you tell me what number "multiple" is and what a "dose" looks like?

Are we talking about raw plant material that is opium, or refined heroin/morphine/codeine? The conflation of the word drugs and plant material seems like the most absurd gorilla in the room.

Off to do some coffee...

Re:I supported legalizing all drugs, then the opioid epidemi... by nyolfen on Thursday April 20, 2017 @11:32AM (#14157563)
welcome to our grim cyberpunk (near-)future: https://www.wired.com/2015/08/dont-try-home-scientists-brew-...