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Re:Hard-won lessons: Five years with Node.js by foldr on Thursday April 20, 2017 @07:42AM (#14155783)
Well, to an extent this is a subjective question. With node, you get npm with it, npm is what everyone uses, and npm is clearly what you should be using too. Moreover, the basic functionality of npm is very very easy to understand.

I find the Java ecosystem terrifying by comparison. I have no idea whether Maven is what I should be using or if I should be using something else instead -- having it as a separate download makes a big difference in that regard -- and I have no idea by looking at a typical Maven config file what it does.

Re:Hard-won lessons: Five years with Node.js by empthought on Thursday April 20, 2017 @08:47AM (#14156138)
You should probably learn to expand your comfort zones more effectively, if the Java ecosystem terrifies you.
Re:Hard-won lessons: Five years with Node.js by foldr on Thursday April 20, 2017 @08:55AM (#14156202)
It's not a macho thing for me. I use the tools that are easiest to use and do the job. Anyway, I have used a lot of different programming languages, and it's the Java ecosystem specifically that I've always found overwhelming whenever I've tried to dabble with it. So I think the problem is Java, not me.
Re:Hard-won lessons: Five years with Node.js by empthought on Thursday April 20, 2017 @09:23AM (#14156365)
There's nothing "macho" involved in this, your language describing your own state of mind is inflammatory and (hopefully, for your sake) inaccurate.
Re:Hard-won lessons: Five years with Node.js by foldr on Thursday April 20, 2017 @12:43PM (#14158299)
You may need to expand your comfort zone with regard to mild hyperbole.
Re:Hard-won lessons: Five years with Node.js by empthought on Thursday April 20, 2017 @01:40PM (#14158948)
"Terrifying? What if something REALLY happens to you? You used 'terrifying' on the Java ecosystem!"[1]

[1]: http://zenpencils.com/comic/95-louis-c-k-we-dont-think-about...

Re:Hard-won lessons: Five years with Node.js by squeaky-clean on Thursday April 20, 2017 @12:27PM (#14158157)
It's not that it's terrifying. It's just... why make it harder for myself? Even if it's one step (which it isn't), why? If the only reason you can give is I need to expand my comfort zone, sorry, I'll keep my comfort zone small and productivity high.
Re:Hard-won lessons: Five years with Node.js by empthought on Thursday April 20, 2017 @01:33PM (#14158882)
I wasn't responding to you. The person I responded said, "I find the Java ecosystem terrifying" and I pointed out how silly that statement is.