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Re:Analysis of the United Airlines passenger removal incident by tarsinge on Thursday April 20, 2017 @03:30AM (#14154657)
Intrigued by how can it be cost competitive for the middle men, why aren't small business selling directly? Is the sales part the only edge of middle men?
Re:Analysis of the United Airlines passenger removal incident by edent on Thursday April 20, 2017 @03:55AM (#14154751)
Because a small company has the ability to supply cleaning to X square metres across one city.

A middle-man can say "We will supply your cleaning in several cities no matter your office size."

So a company pays a higher cost - but only has to deal with one contract, which saves them effort elsewhere.

It's the same as taxi companies. It would be cheaper for you to call a small firm with lower overheads, but you're happy to pay a premium for convenience.

Re:Analysis of the United Airlines passenger removal incident by trprog on Thursday April 20, 2017 @08:09AM (#14155910)
>So a company pays a higher cost - but only has to deal with one contract, which saves them effort elsewhere.

They have fewer contracts at any given time but also the contracts can last longer.

If I directly hire people to clean an office, when they don't want to do it anymore I need to find other people to do it. Selecting people, negotiating, getting payments set up with accounting etc. Its a distraction from more important stuff so I want to do this as rarely as possible.

If I hire a company/agency/middleman they can replace people without me having to even be aware its happening. At the point "keep the office clean" is essentially solved. Its possible I will never need to think about office cleaning ever again and I can get on with running my business.

Re:Analysis of the United Airlines passenger removal incident by djsumdog on Thursday April 20, 2017 @04:47AM (#14154991)
You need the pigs. They're helping all the animals. That horse isn't really going to the glue factory. We just reused that glue factory truck, but really he was going to a retirement home (paraphrasing Orwell's Animal Farm).

When people plant themselves in the middle, they essentially sell themselves as being necessary. Are they necessary? It depends .. but usually not.

Re:Analysis of the United Airlines passenger removal incident by DomreiRoam on Thursday April 20, 2017 @09:30AM (#14156413)
Middleman have some utility but I think often they extract more money than the value they provide.
Re:Analysis of the United Airlines passenger removal incident by flukus on Thursday April 20, 2017 @04:43AM (#14154963)
A lot of this played out with single location companies and single city contracting companies (before they start merging). So I don't think that's the reason.

I suspect it was cost. The middle men would just under bid and then under deliver.

Re:Analysis of the United Airlines passenger removal incident by jaclaz on Thursday April 20, 2017 @05:43AM (#14155248)
I see it in a slightly different angle, it is the company's Chief Officer for Cleaning Matters ;) that manages to work less (have convenience) at the expense of the company which pays more money for the service (besides the wage of the COCM ). Coincidentally that is also the same person that will convince everyone else in the company on how convenient the "global" contract is.

There are a lot of activities for which sub-contracting makes sense, particularly when there are possible economies of scale, but when the activity is merely (or largely) labour, there are only four possible overall outcomes:

1) the actual workers are paid less than what would be fair

2) the service is inferior to what was expected/agreed upon

3) the service costs more (the middlemen somehow have to take their part)

4) the contractor or sub-contractor has made wrong estimation of the costs and before or later they close or go bankrupt

Re:Analysis of the United Airlines passenger removal incident by leni536 on Thursday April 20, 2017 @04:32AM (#14154903)
Hmm, Uber for office cleaning?
Re:Analysis of the United Airlines passenger removal incident by flukus on Thursday April 20, 2017 @04:38AM (#14154931)
So the yellow pages was basically just an uber uber?