Countries that are reducing numbers of immigrant workers

Re:Countries that are reducing numbers of immigrant workers by robjan on Thursday April 20, 2017 @02:44AM (#14154471)

I wouldn't say it's all down to populism and tribalism. The company I worked for in the UK laid off over 1000 local IT staff and replaced them with people on Tier 2 visas from Tata Consultancy Services and Tech Mahindra who were willing to work for significantly less than our salaries.

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Re:Countries that are reducing numbers of immigrant workers by anilgulecha on Thursday April 20, 2017 @03:05AM (#14154548)

Agreed that the replacement happens.

I'm saying "give jobs to locals than outsiders" is tribalism. (Not saying if it's right or wrong -- just that it's by definition tribalism).

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Re:Countries that are reducing numbers of immigrant workers by robjan on Thursday April 20, 2017 @03:27AM (#14154643)

Not sure if it's tribalism so much as protecting the local economy against salary arbitrage.

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Re:Countries that are reducing numbers of immigrant workers by godzilla82 on Thursday April 20, 2017 @04:54AM (#14155027)

Are the products of your "local economy" sold locally. If not, then you have no right to claim protection.

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Re:Countries that are reducing numbers of immigrant workers by en3rme on Thursday April 20, 2017 @05:44AM (#14155251)

People don't want what's fair, people want what's better for them.

I don't want my wage to lower just so people in the third world can live better because I, honestly, don't give a fuck about them. That's the sentiment that's rising lately.

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Re:Countries that are reducing numbers of immigrant workers by pimmen89 on Thursday April 20, 2017 @08:59AM (#14156231)

And this is where the tribalism comes in to play. At some point, governments have to do what's fair and not what the angry mob they represents want. White Europeans might've wanted colonialism hundreds of years ago, and to this day some people don't really care when their military commits war crimes against "them".

It's hard for me to sympathise with the view that "the real unfairness here is that people born in miserable conditions are happy to do my job for less, so I'm the victim here".

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Re:Countries that are reducing numbers of immigrant workers by restalis on Friday April 21, 2017 @09:09AM (#14165211)

"At some point, governments have to do what's fair and not what the angry mob they represents want."

Fair to whom? A government has to be fair primarily to their subjects. It's their subject's trust and resources that mandate government's power. Outsiders haven't contributed with nothing prior to their coming so it's unfair to give them equal amount of consideration about anything in the first place.

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Re:Countries that are reducing numbers of immigrant workers by geodel on Thursday April 20, 2017 @08:19AM (#14155966)

Unfortunately rights are not much applicable in international matters. They are governed by laws which can benefit locals or treaties which can benefit both parties.

I have seen in India even in same nation people from one state want to throw out people from different states as they are taking jobs and resources that are supposed for locals.

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