Re:Vanguard Is Growing Faster Than Everybody Else Combined
by jessriedel on Wednesday April 19, 2017 @02:37PM
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What would you think about a system where a major institution (e.g. Vanguard) holds index funds, but the shareholder voting for each company in those funds is done by a different in-house team whose compensation is tied to the performance of that particular company? (More realistically, you'd just need a different team for each company in a given industry, but one team could vote for multiple companies that don't compete with each other.) It's "passive investing with active shareholder governance" in the sense that only voting, not dollars, are actively directed.
Re:Vanguard Is Growing Faster Than Everybody Else Combined
by kolbe on Wednesday April 19, 2017 @05:08PM
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I don't like it. It suffers from the same problems, but just window dresses them. There's no way to make that team financially culpable without charging fees related to the results, and those fees are largely what people are trying to avoid when using these low lost index funds. And those fees need to be very sizable to be consistent with the value of the decisions they're making.
I think a better approach would be to pass through voting to the owners, but given that most shareholders don't know enough for their vote to be more than a random guess, that wouldn't much solve the problem, either. But at least the people who are affected by the decisions being made are the ones making the decisions.
Re:Vanguard Is Growing Faster Than Everybody Else Combined
by jessriedel on Wednesday April 19, 2017 @09:58PM
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> without charging fees related to the results,
I don't understand why that would be the case. Just charge a flat fee for the fund and distribute proportionally to the teams whose companies do best.
It sounds impossible to satisfy your desiderata with unsophisticated investors. They will have to delegate the task of assessing board decisions to someone.
Tell me what you think the result of this scenario might look like. A manager wants to conduct an LBO that grossly undervalues a stock. He couldn't get the votes from shareholders if they were paying attention, but instead he walks up to management at Blackrock, Vanguard and State Steet, and offers the people in charge of voting a very lucrative job at the new private company. How do you think they'll vote?