News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:A customer reported an error in the map used by Flight Si... by atonse on Tuesday April 18, 2017 @03:05PM (#14141863)
I don't know how true this is, but FlightSim was kept alive way longer than economically feasible because Bill Gates personally kept it alive.
Re:A customer reported an error in the map used by Flight Si... by jsmthrowaway on Tuesday April 18, 2017 @03:57PM (#14142313)
Then they sold it, and the new owner is now pulling a Train Simulator and going for thousands of dollars of DLC on Steam, which will likely kill the entire modding community that kept FSX alive once they realize they can sell it on Steam. Kind of sad to watch such a historical product be squeezed for the last dollars in slow motion.

X-Plane 11 looks absolutely fantastic, thankfully. Might be about time to pay FSX a final salute, and nice to support X-Plane as a reward for standing up to patent trolls.

Re:A customer reported an error in the map used by Flight Si... by Macha on Tuesday April 18, 2017 @05:45PM (#14143245)
There's actually two living forks. One is Dovetail Games' FSX: Steam Edition which you're talking about. The other is Prepar3d, sold by Lockheed. The license stipulates that it is "not for entertainment purposes", but otherwise it's basically just a port of FSX that works better in modern systems.
Re:A customer reported an error in the map used by Flight Si... by tmearnest on Tuesday April 18, 2017 @05:59PM (#14143368)
> "not for entertainment purposes"

That's kind of a weird stipulation: fun is prohibited.

Re:A customer reported an error in the map used by Flight Si... by Macha on Tuesday April 18, 2017 @06:44PM (#14143698)
The general consensus among the flight sim community is that their license from Microsoft forbade them selling it as a video game, to avoid them competing with first Microsoft and later Dovetail.
Re:A customer reported an error in the map used by Flight Si... by ThrowawayFS on Tuesday April 18, 2017 @07:58PM (#14144234)
There's actually a reason for that: Microsoft had a separate product called ESP [1] that was based on the Flight Simulator codebase that was marketed as a platform for doing industrial training simulations.

Development stopped with the dissolution of ACES, the Flight Simulator team, but Lockheed acquired rights to continue to develop MS ESP, which eventually became Lockheed's Prepare3d [2].

[1] https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc526948.aspx

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Flight_Simulator#Clo...

Re:A customer reported an error in the map used by Flight Si... by archon on Tuesday April 18, 2017 @06:48PM (#14143734)
Licensing is weird sometimes.
Re:A customer reported an error in the map used by Flight Si... by chrisper on Tuesday April 18, 2017 @04:42PM (#14142718)
Can confirm. XP11 is amazing. Though be prepared to pay a lot for addons.
Re:A customer reported an error in the map used by Flight Si... by astrodust on Tuesday April 18, 2017 @03:11PM (#14141929)
It's one of the oldest Microsoft products that's not Office or OS-based. Truly amazing how much time they've invested in it over the decades. I wonder how much code from the 1980s is still shipping.
Re:A customer reported an error in the map used by Flight Si... by dragonwriter on Tuesday April 18, 2017 @03:17PM (#14141982)
> It's one of the oldest Microsoft products that's not Office or OS-based.

It's older than any of the Office components, too.

Re:A customer reported an error in the map used by Flight Si... by astrodust on Tuesday April 18, 2017 @03:18PM (#14141992)
Yeah, looks like the core code dates from 1977 (!) and Microsoft acquired it in 1981. That's a heck of a legacy.
Re:A customer reported an error in the map used by Flight Si... by hermitdev on Tuesday April 18, 2017 @04:22PM (#14142542)
Definitely is quite a legacy. I didn't realize it went back that far, but I do recall it running on DOS. Only had one brief go at it on a friend's computer in the late 80s. Don't recall being very good at it. As I recall, it wasn't very friendly to mistakes, especially on landing. I remember crashing a lot.
Re:A customer reported an error in the map used by Flight Si... by mcguire on Tuesday April 18, 2017 @04:57PM (#14142841)
I had a version for C-64 in high school. Taking off and landing was about all you could do, given the graphics.
Re:A customer reported an error in the map used by Flight Si... by veli_joza on Wednesday April 19, 2017 @05:29AM (#14146528)
Yeah, I played Atari ST version and it was a blast. Gorgeous filled polygons, up to 4 simultaneous 3D views, weather conditions, stunt flying... However this is off-topic as only PC versions were made by Microsoft.
Re:A customer reported an error in the map used by Flight Si... by jacquesm on Tuesday April 18, 2017 @03:35PM (#14142143)
It even lives inside Office as an easter egg:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gYb5GUs0dM

Re:A customer reported an error in the map used by Flight Si... by nommm-nommm on Wednesday April 19, 2017 @09:30AM (#14147532)
Not anymore. Around the turn of the century Microsoft adopted a strict no Easter eggs policy as part of their trustworthy computing initiative.