Re:Most Vegetarians and Vegans Eventually Return to Meat
by sten on Tuesday April 18, 2017 @01:11PM
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The parent seems to be suggesting that a vegan diet didn't work for them for health reasons. But countered objections to this by saying that it's difficult. (Which it is. Stupidly difficult to eat meat, gluten and soy free in my experience) But convenience is a different argument from health. Which is it? If the issue is convenience, I concede. If it's health there may be room to explore other options.
Though I admit there is nothing inherently healthy about eating vegan (oreos are vegan and I've gained weight while still being vegan while learning how to bake) I'd argue that choosing a diet on the availability of fast food choices is an indicator of an unhealthy decision.
Re:Most Vegetarians and Vegans Eventually Return to Meat
by John23832 on Tuesday April 18, 2017 @01:20PM
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> The parent seems to be suggesting that a vegan diet didn't work for them for health reasons. But countered objections to this by saying that it's difficult. (Which it is. Stupidly difficult to eat meat, gluten and soy free in my experience) But convenience is a different argument from health. Which is it? If the issue is convenience, I concede. If it's health there may be room to explore other options.
Why can't it be both? A diet can be both medically necessary and inconveniencing. See my own example or a diabetic diet.
Re:Most Vegetarians and Vegans Eventually Return to Meat
by greglindahl on Tuesday April 18, 2017 @01:10PM
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Actually, v*gns -- most of whom will become violently ill if someone sneaks a little ground beef into their food -- have a good understanding of "what people who actually have dietary needs go through".
People don't really realize what they eat, especially when it comes to gluten and soy. I developed a wheat allergy after college (which my doctor said was caused by stress and working in a pizzaria full of wheat) which caused me to have to switch to a gluten free diet. That means your prepared meal options are massively reduced, more of your time is spend cooking (which imo is a good thing, I'm conscious about what I eat now), and if you do eat out, take on a "gluten-free tax".
People who go on these holier-than-though fad diets don't understand what people who actually have dietary needs go through. There is no wiggle room for us. If we don't follow our diets there are real and serious medical consequences. We don't just "feel down on ourselves" for not following the diet and the strictness with which we must follow our diets cause real inconveniences.