Re:Intel Discontinues the Intel Developer Forum; IDF17 Cance...
by wtallis on Monday April 17, 2017 @07:40PM
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A factor of 360 is closer than I would have guessed. But that's still at least 8 doublings of compute efficiency. We've never had concrete roadmaps that far out—that would be like scheduling the introduction of FinFETs while Pentium 2s were first hitting the shelves. Nobody's ever been able to predict that far in advance which fabrication technologies will end up being economical at scale and required at which node. (Just look at how well the industry has coped with having to put off EUV so many times.) With the looming end of silicon scaling, those thermodynamic limits certainly don't look any less out of reach.
Re:Intel Discontinues the Intel Developer Forum; IDF17 Cance...
by monort on Monday April 17, 2017 @04:50PM
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Where did you get the number for attojoule per gate operation?
Re:Intel Discontinues the Intel Developer Forum; IDF17 Cance...
by rocqua on Monday April 17, 2017 @03:55PM
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If I recall correctly, the lower bound on energy for destroying a bit depends (linearly?) on the temperature. Couldn't performance then be improved by cooling?
Re:Intel Discontinues the Intel Developer Forum; IDF17 Cance...
by Symmetry on Monday April 17, 2017 @04:15PM
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Yes, you're correct and I probably should have mentioned that.
Re:Intel Discontinues the Intel Developer Forum; IDF17 Cance...
by jacquesm on Monday April 17, 2017 @05:26PM
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I don't think it will matter much though. Whether you have to remove input power as heat or expend power to cool likely won't make a whole lot of difference. Just that the delta-t will be a lot larger and so it may actually cost more to keep that ultra-cool machine ultra-cool.
Maybe future data-centers will be used to pre-heat the water that goes into the turbines that power the electricity plant, in some kind of perverse version of a perpetuum mobile.
You'd need to make up for the difference lost on each cycle with extra fuel.
Re:Intel Discontinues the Intel Developer Forum; IDF17 Cance...
by Symmetry on Monday April 17, 2017 @07:21PM
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Or we could put future datacenters in space behind sunshades and get them really cold by default.
[1]http://hopefullyintersting.blogspot.com/2017/04/the-coming-i...
[2]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reversible_computing