Re:Kazakhstan spells out plans for alphabet swap
by low_battery on Sunday April 16, 2017 @06:28AM
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Current Turkish alphabet is mostly enough to convey sounds of Turkic languages (with few exceptions like Ng sound), Azeri alphabet 3 more letters for non Turkic sounds, I am Sure Kazakh people will find a way, there are already working examples.
Re:Kazakhstan spells out plans for alphabet swap
by gkya on Sunday April 16, 2017 @09:28AM
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Current turkish alphabet is bad at representing educated Istanbul turkish, and worse at anatolian dialects. For one, palatalisations, which are distinctive in many cases are either not represented or represented by a circumflex on a nearest vowel, but the diacritic also signals long vowels, even though they do not necessitate palatalisation, which is a quality of the consonants anyways.
Re:Kazakhstan spells out plans for alphabet swap
by low_battery on Sunday April 16, 2017 @11:10AM
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Which alphabet represents local accents and dialects fully?? Lets be realistic here.
Re:Kazakhstan spells out plans for alphabet swap
by Markoff on Monday April 17, 2017 @08:05AM
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but you can still just use regular O and any Hungarian will understand what you wrote, so i don't see accents as big issue, China should take lesson from Vietnam where anyone visiting can read their writing despite using accents, now good luck with Chinese characters when visiting China
In Hungarian I see this a lot, and it is a shame. We have for example o ó ö ő for variations of the sound O in "lonely". We have a mixed model of variable length and accented characters.
ASCII and QWERTY are (the unintended) cultural equivalent of the Little Boy and the Fat Boy. Poor globalization throughout the IT industry made people adapt to it, instead of challenging it. This makes only variable length survive the "loss in translation".
Now when globalization is better, it became "cool" somehow in some subcultures (eg. UNIX related, programming related), as many ancient tools (Unix, C) lack proper support.