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Re:Apple's cash hoard swells to $246B by krashidov on Saturday April 15, 2017 @06:59PM (#14123316)
I don't know much about finance. Why would Apple return money back to its shareholders? Doesn't it already do that by paying a dividend?
Re:Apple's cash hoard swells to $246B by cowsandmilk on Saturday April 15, 2017 @08:41PM (#14123712)
To expand on some other people's comments:

Dividends are post-tax and have to be brought back to the US before they are paid out. Apple has a whole bunch of money sitting overseas that it has not paid taxes on. So, if Apple brings it back to pay to shareholders as a dividend, 40% goes to the US government and 60% to shareholders.

Let's say Trump tells Apple (and other companies) they can bring the money back with a 10% tax. Now, the shareholders get 90% of the money as a dividend, which is 1.5X the 60%.

In order to pay dividends and not pay taxes, Apple has actually gone the route of borrowing money. So, they borrow money in the US and pay a low interest rate while their cash sits overseas.

Re:Apple's cash hoard swells to $246B by dzhiurgis on Saturday April 15, 2017 @10:56PM (#14124101)
> In order to pay dividends and not pay taxes, Apple has actually gone the route of borrowing money. So, they borrow money in the US and pay a low interest rate while their cash sits overseas.

Wow really. That's clever but also weird. Don't they sustain themselves US being largest market?

Re:Apple's cash hoard swells to $246B by eridius on Sunday April 16, 2017 @03:09AM (#14124767)
> Apple has a whole bunch of money sitting overseas that it has not paid taxes on.

To clarify: they haven't paid US taxes on it. They've paid whatever taxes are levied by the foreign countries they're operating in, but the US also double-taxes that same money if it's brought back into the US.

Re:Apple's cash hoard swells to $246B by kilotaras on Sunday April 16, 2017 @03:32AM (#14124811)
I may be wrong but my understanding is US taxes the difference between foreign and domestic tax rates.
Re:Apple's cash hoard swells to $246B by DanielBMarkham on Sunday April 16, 2017 @08:30AM (#14125546)
Also once they pay tax (again) on it to get it into the U.S., it gets taxed a third time if they distribute it to the shareholders.
Re:Apple's cash hoard swells to $246B by justin66 on Saturday April 15, 2017 @08:27PM (#14123663)
> Why would Apple return money back to its shareholders?

They're obligated to obey the wishes of the shareholders, who are the owners of the company. If the shareholders want it, the shareholders get it. (That's assuming the shareholders haven't been suckered into buying shares without voting rights, etc.)

Re:Apple's cash hoard swells to $246B by CapitalistCartr on Saturday April 15, 2017 @07:04PM (#14123349)
That's what the parent is talking about. Sometimes companies pay out a large, one-time dividend. The other way to pay out to shareholders is to buy back shares on the market. Each approach has its strengths.
Re:Apple's cash hoard swells to $246B by cavisne on Saturday April 15, 2017 @08:09PM (#14123606)
Their corporate responsibility is the maximize return to shareholders. If they cant do anything with the money (and seems they cant) they should be returning it with larger dividends, buy backs etc.

If they did do something with the money, i wonder if automation is at the stage where they could invest in local supply chains and bring iphone manufacturing to the US. Chinese labour is not as cheap as it used to be, all the parts are still in china for now though.

Re:Apple's cash hoard swells to $246B by nebabyte on Saturday April 15, 2017 @09:01PM (#14123782)
> Why would Apple return money back to its shareholders? Doesn't it already do that by paying a dividend?

Did you read the post?