Re:Filing Taxes in Japan Is a Breeze. Why Not in the US?
by csomar on Friday April 14, 2017 @11:03AM
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yeah I was not too convinced when I read the article. The government can easily figure out the taxes for your wage (which your employer did actually figure out) but they can't figure out the taxes on your real estate revenue, and maybe other activities (traded cryptocurrency? freelanced on the side? Airbnb"ing" some of your estate)
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Re:Filing Taxes in Japan Is a Breeze. Why Not in the US?
by obstinate on Friday April 14, 2017 @01:04PM
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I am not able to find a citation for this, but I would be surprised if more than a small fraction of Americans had significant non-wage, non-financial institution investment income to report. A solution doesn't have to solve a problem for everyone to be useful.
Re:Filing Taxes in Japan Is a Breeze. Why Not in the US?
by vonmoltke on Friday April 14, 2017 @01:22PM
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That's just income. There is also the issue of deductions and credits, which covers many more people. The income portion of my taxes takes me about 5 minutes. Most of my time is spent on the deductions and credits portion.
Re:Filing Taxes in Japan Is a Breeze. Why Not in the US?
by obstinate on Friday April 14, 2017 @03:32PM
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Seventy percent of households take the standard deduction or have no income: https://taxfoundation.org/who-itemizes-deductions/
Re:Filing Taxes in Japan Is a Breeze. Why Not in the US?
by ams6110 on Friday April 14, 2017 @04:24PM
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For most people, taxes are not as complicated as they are made out to be. If you can file a 1040EZ you can fill out the form in 10 minutes. If you have a "normal" return with mortgage interest it's still not that difficult.
Most people are just afraid of making mistakes (it's not a big deal if you do, you'll get a notice and you file an amended return). Or maybe they just feel their time is too valuable to spend an afternoon filling out forms. But most individual tax returns are really not that complicated.
Re:Filing Taxes in Japan Is a Breeze. Why Not in the US?
by marssaxman on Friday April 14, 2017 @05:51PM
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Making sense out of the ambiguously-worded instructions has always been the complicated part for me. I have always found this to be infuriatingly stressful, so I hire professionals to deal with it.
Re:Filing Taxes in Japan Is a Breeze. Why Not in the US?
by ams6110 on Friday April 14, 2017 @08:15PM
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The trick is to not try to infer anything that is not there. The instructions are dumbed down to the point they actually are hard to understand. Just do literally what they say and don't think about whether it makes any sense.
Re:Filing Taxes in Japan Is a Breeze. Why Not in the US?
by gozur88 on Friday April 14, 2017 @02:03PM
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I would be willing to bet good money only a tiny percentage of people have income outside their employment. People who have real estate or bitcoin profits could always file an andendum.
Re:Filing Taxes in Japan Is a Breeze. Why Not in the US?
by patio11 on Friday April 14, 2017 @07:52PM
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You would lose that bet. 12 million Americans filed a Schedule D with $5k+ in capital gains in the last year the IRS has stats on. (That's 1 out of every 8 returns.)
https://www.irs.gov/uac/soi-tax-stats-individual-income-tax-...
There are numerous other ways to have income outside of formal employment in the US. The most salient one for tax purposes is self-employment.
Re:Filing Taxes in Japan Is a Breeze. Why Not in the US?
by gozur88 on Friday April 14, 2017 @10:26PM
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Let me amend to say "...only a tiny percentage of people have income the government doesn't already know about."
Surely most of that capital gains stuff is stock and bond sales.
Re:Filing Taxes in Japan Is a Breeze. Why Not in the US?
by s73ver on Friday April 14, 2017 @12:33PM
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So you have a good start, one which is enough for the vast majority of people. Those that do have those things have to do a little extra work. I'm not seeing an argument against doing this.
Re:Filing Taxes in Japan Is a Breeze. Why Not in the US?
by ghaff on Friday April 14, 2017 @01:35PM
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There are two simpler IRS forms (1040EZ and 1040A) for people with simpler tax situations which are used by something like 40% of filers. People with simple tax situations really just need to transfer a few numbers to a form and send it in. I guess the process could be even simpler but it's already pretty straightforward if your income streams and deductions are simple.