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Re:US drops 'largest non-nuclear bomb' in Afghanistan by boomboomsubban on Friday April 14, 2017 @01:08AM (#14112800)
I didn't realize dropping this bomb or doing nothing were the only possible options, the whole 26 day campaign with two wounded US soldiers they did last year led me to believe there may be more options.

What reason is there for a war of aggression beyond imperialism?

Re:US drops 'largest non-nuclear bomb' in Afghanistan by gozur88 on Friday April 14, 2017 @04:33PM (#14117095)
I don't think it's reasonable to characterize the war in Afghanistan as "imperialism".
Re:US drops 'largest non-nuclear bomb' in Afghanistan by boomboomsubban on Saturday April 15, 2017 @12:48PM (#14121528)
So what do you call a war who's aim is to install a friendly government and take over some amount of the nation's sovereignty?
Re:US drops 'largest non-nuclear bomb' in Afghanistan by gozur88 on Saturday April 15, 2017 @08:18PM (#14123633)
I suppose I would call it that if that were the aim of the war.
Re:US drops 'largest non-nuclear bomb' in Afghanistan by boomboomsubban on Saturday April 15, 2017 @11:35PM (#14124195)
Our goal was removing the Taliban, and taking the right to police residents of the country, particularly Bin Laden, without the need of jurisprudence. Set up a friendly government, take over sovereign right. What am I missing here?
Re:US drops 'largest non-nuclear bomb' in Afghanistan by gozur88 on Sunday April 16, 2017 @03:01PM (#14126968)
Okay. What does that have to do with "war of aggression" and "imperialism". We weren't there on a lark.
Re:US drops 'largest non-nuclear bomb' in Afghanistan by boomboomsubban on Sunday April 16, 2017 @05:27PM (#14127621)
Starting the war for those aims is a war of aggression, removing the Taliban is setting up a friendly government, removing their right to police is a removal of sovereignty.

Really confused what you're going on about, you keep saying I'm wrong but don't try to say why.

Re:US drops 'largest non-nuclear bomb' in Afghanistan by gozur88 on Sunday April 16, 2017 @06:42PM (#14127971)
>Starting the war for those aims is a war of aggression...

No it isn't. That's not at all true.

Re:US drops 'largest non-nuclear bomb' in Afghanistan by flukus on Monday April 17, 2017 @08:56PM (#14135730)
So you wouldn't classify Napoleons invasion and the creation of Westphalia as a war of aggression?

How about Ceasars invasion of Gaul? He had a casus belli.

Re:US drops 'largest non-nuclear bomb' in Afghanistan by boomboomsubban on Sunday April 16, 2017 @11:19PM (#14129030)
Yeah, it is. There's millennia of precedent here and I'm not going any further to argue against "nuh-uh."
Re:US drops 'largest non-nuclear bomb' in Afghanistan by gozur88 on Monday April 17, 2017 @07:13PM (#14135241)
Precedent? This isn't a court case. I begin to see the problem here: You're misapplying a historical template. This isn't 19th Century British Empire - the US had an iron-clad casus belli in Afghanistan, and to ignore that is to completely mischaracterize the situation.
Re:US drops 'largest non-nuclear bomb' in Afghanistan by boomboomsubban on Monday April 17, 2017 @08:51PM (#14135698)
"This isn't a court case, they had an iron-clad case for war." The only point of a cassus belli is to justify your war of aggression, if someone declares war on you the case for it is clear.

And no, the cassus belli was not iron-clad. There are only three legal ones under current law. Defense, defense of an ally, and a UN approval. First two don't work, Afghanistan hadn't declared any wars, and the third never happened.