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Re:YouTube Advertiser Meltdown: An Opportunity for Startups by ac29 on Wednesday April 12, 2017 @12:38AM (#14094793)
>YouTube defines "politically too extreme" as anything that's slightly left of Fox News.

I think you mean right of Fox News? Infowars is notoriously full of bullshit, and conservativetreehouse blocks google entirely [0].

[0]http://www.conservativetreehouse.com/robots.txt

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Re:YouTube Advertiser Meltdown: An Opportunity for Startups by naaaaak on Wednesday April 12, 2017 @03:34AM (#14095574)
No, Youtube is demonetizing anyone who disagrees with the narrative. Do you think pewdiepie is right of Fox News?

Do you think buzzfeed, printers of the 4chan fanfic "piss dossier" are not notoriously full of bullshit? Have tmz or mtv ever broken any story besides celebrity gossip? Every single "news" organization that printed fake polls for months claiming Hillary would win by huge margins is still considered "News" by Google and not demonetized by Youtube. You claim Infowars is full of shit, but they were spot on with the election coverage and calling the polls being fake and oversampled.

Why is Google's censoring of differing views tolerated?

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Re:YouTube Advertiser Meltdown: An Opportunity for Startups by Buge on Wednesday April 12, 2017 @11:36AM (#14098686)
Pewpiepie makes tons of money from Youtube. He's not banned. And most of his videos are monetized. The fact that he's the most successful Youtuber and that he has differing views that Youtube shows that Youtube allows people with differing views to succeed.
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Re:YouTube Advertiser Meltdown: An Opportunity for Startups by naaaaak on Wednesday April 12, 2017 @10:06PM (#14103537)
I never said he was banned.

> more than a third of his videos had become demonetized

http://www.polygon.com/2017/4/10/15246814/pewdiepie-youtube-...

> "I’m going to have [to be] family friendly from now on"

What daring and original content that's going to be. How "liberal" of YouTube and its massively "liberal" employee base. Such diversity of ideas and language being allowed. Such tolerance.

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Re:YouTube Advertiser Meltdown: An Opportunity for Startups by Buge on Thursday April 13, 2017 @02:17AM (#14104567)
Diversity of ideas are allowed. The videos are not removed. If advertisers don't want to advertise on this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDJMZWzW8Ko that's not Youtube's fault.

If not paying creators advertising money is censorship, then most other platforms have 100% censorship. Reddit, Vimeo, Facebook, Hacker News, Instagram, Streamable, Imgur all don't pay ad money to creators.

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Re:YouTube Advertiser Meltdown: An Opportunity for Startups by thomask0 on Wednesday April 12, 2017 @04:33AM (#14095841)
How were the polls fake when they were basically right? The state-polls for Wisconsin / Michigan in the end were wrong, but those states in the end were probably not polled enough to capture the volatility of unprecedented events like the Comey letter.

And FYI national polls predicted a 1-4% popular vote win, those where pretty much on the money.

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Re:YouTube Advertiser Meltdown: An Opportunity for Startups by naaaaak on Wednesday April 12, 2017 @09:20AM (#14097351)
What polls were "basically right" in the month, weeks, and days leading up to the election? I recall most of them being very off the mark because of their methodology. There were a ton of polls that consistently oversampled Democratic voters, women, and other groups to show results that favored Hillary. This is what made them fake polls. They were being conducted to produce a result that would reinforce a narrative.

Most Fake News (NBC, CBS, NYT, etc.) headlined these fake polls while not reporting sampling to their viewers. There's a reason almost all Fake News casters like Maddow were shocked on election night. They bought into their own lies and selective reporting. I learned of the sampling methodology from some of the very sites that Google now reports as "fake" and from Youtubers they have demonetized.

"Polls are used to influence public opinion, not reflect it."

What we're seeing is Google trying to control the narrative through search and monetization now. This is a more-extreme extension of the crap they pulled during the election (where Google search-complete consistently suggested positive things for Hillary and negative things for Trump).

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Re:YouTube Advertiser Meltdown: An Opportunity for Startups by naaaaak on Thursday April 13, 2017 @08:54PM (#14111962)
https://twitter.com/JoshNoneYaBiz/status/852661406298198016

Reminder of fake polls pushed by fake news. Almost all of the establishment media reported polls like this leading up to the election. They traded all credibility to shill for their candidate. But Google did, too, so such sites are still considered "news" by Google's standards.

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