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Re:Microdosing: People taking LSD with breakfast by benevol on Monday April 10, 2017 @03:49AM (#14076756)
While I consider microdosing an interesting concept, nobody should miss out on a well planned experience with a normal dose, in your favorite spot in nature, with carefully selected music, in perfect weather conditions. Also, read James Fadiman's classic [0] beforehand and "test before you ingest".

[0] http://www.psychedelicexplorersguide.com

Re:Microdosing: People taking LSD with breakfast by interfixus on Monday April 10, 2017 @04:01AM (#14076788)
Please don't dictate what 'nobody' should 'miss out' on.

I'm all for the fredom of anyone to ingest whatever strange concoctions take their fancy. Reciprocally, don't lean on those of us who are happy enough about the way our brains work without artificial flavouring.

Re:Microdosing: People taking LSD with breakfast by kentrado on Monday April 10, 2017 @06:08AM (#14077217)
> Please don't dictate what 'nobody' should 'miss out' on.

I don't think he was being authoritative.

Re:Microdosing: People taking LSD with breakfast by benevol on Monday April 10, 2017 @04:39AM (#14076909)
Sorry, didn't mean to dictate anything. Having had the opportunity to live the perfect experience thanks to this molecule, I simply wish it upon everybody. I honestly want this planet to step out of the shadow and be happy, that's all.
Re:Microdosing: People taking LSD with breakfast by interfixus on Monday April 10, 2017 @04:42AM (#14076925)
Yeah, I got your vibe. Just taking the opportunity to state a point, nothing personal.
Re:Microdosing: People taking LSD with breakfast by dguaraglia on Monday April 10, 2017 @05:37AM (#14077120)
On the contrary, seems to me the point you made is extremely personal. Your lashing out at someone for suggesting people "should" experiment with this or that expresses an opinion just as strong as that of the original poster.
Re:Microdosing: People taking LSD with breakfast by gjm11 on Monday April 10, 2017 @08:24AM (#14077880)
Lashing out? Seems rather strong given what s/he actually said.
Re:Microdosing: People taking LSD with breakfast by taohansen on Tuesday April 11, 2017 @06:51AM (#14086490)
“Artificial flavoring”? Well if this isn’t loaded... You, most of all, should do as he advises and get out of your conditioned shell and constricted perspective. He was trying to share some of the beauty he had experienced. Since you seem to have a hostile view to anything but the one you are normalized to, I suggest you go out there and experiment before you lay dying and wonder at all the joys you may have missed out on.
Re:Microdosing: People taking LSD with breakfast by metaphorm on Monday April 10, 2017 @02:58PM (#14081469)
have you considered that perhaps you don't know what you don't know? or that your current state of happiness is not a limitation or prescription against trying new things?
Re:Microdosing: People taking LSD with breakfast by interfixus on Monday April 10, 2017 @03:03PM (#14081517)
Yes.
Re:Microdosing: People taking LSD with breakfast by metaphorm on Monday April 10, 2017 @03:14PM (#14081641)
so then, when you encounter something interesting and mysterious that a large number of people have experimented with and had positive results from, why is your reaction to say "absolutely fucking not"?
Re:Microdosing: People taking LSD with breakfast by interfixus on Monday April 10, 2017 @03:48PM (#14081936)
Part of the reason may be that I absolutely fucking loathe the never ending evangelisation so many users of various chemical stimulants seem to glory in.

A bigger part may be that I absolutely fucking dislike having my neurochemistry played silly games with, aka being drunk or stoned or tripping or whatever the requisite term may be.

Staying in parent's vernacular idiom, assuming it to have some sort of point.

Re:Microdosing: People taking LSD with breakfast by metaphorm on Monday April 10, 2017 @04:19PM (#14082173)
alright, let me annoy you just one more time than we can part ways amicably. I fully respect everyone's liberty to do, or not do, whatever they want with their mind and body. That said, I believe that there are some experiences that can be massively beneficial and I do advocate for them because I believe it is a worthy cause.

I'll say two things, briefly, so please forgive any necessary lack of detail due to abbreviation.

First, is that absolutely everything you do has a profound impact on your neurochemistry. That's just how the animal brain works. The air you breather impacts it. The food you eat impacts it. Watching a TV show or movie impacts it. Doing your work at the office impacts it. Everything. There is no experience you can possible have that is not also governed by changes in your neurochemistry. It is an illusion to believe there is such a thing as a "pure" state of neurochemistry. The chemistry of your brain is a reflection of your inner and outer environment. Taking a drug that causes sensations inwardly, through neurochemical action, is not particularly different, from a brain chemistry point of view anyway, than doing something else with your body that causes sensations and corresponding changes in brain chemistry.

Second, is that not all drugs are created equal and they shouldn't be lumped together any more than you would lump together, for example, all activities done with your legs. Just as you distinguish between the value of going for a nice walk in the woods, and jumping off a bridge, you ought to distinguish between the different varieties of drug induced experience. There are very very few that I would recommend on their own merits because the sensation that arises from them is inherently worthwhile. Most of them don't cause inherently worthwhile sensations to arise. Alcohol certainly doesn't. Most stimulants don't. There are only two classes of drugs that I think actually do cause worthwhile sensations to arise, on their own merits: entheogens (classic psychedelics like LSD and Psilocybin) and empathogens (MDMA, basically).

Why do I say these drugs create experiences that are worthwhile on their own merits? It is hard to do any justice to it with any amount of words let alone so few. The only thing I can really say is that these experiences are incredibly powerful tools for the exploration of your own mind and soul. That's not something I would say about a thing intended merely for entertainment or stimulation. The psychedelic experience is not about entertainment or stimulation. It's about discovering the nature of your own mind.

Re:Microdosing: People taking LSD with breakfast by one__day on Monday April 10, 2017 @07:06PM (#14083351)
This strongly echoes my own personal experience, as well my understanding of how to more accurately think about these substances. Thank you for taking the time to write such an articulate comment.

Mind you, being such powerful tools, they should be used with great care, as they can be used in damaging ways and by those who aren't prepared. And they aren't magic either -- they aren't going to save the world or cure cancer.

But, I think that research done with an open mind reveals the mainstream perspective on psylocybin and LSD to be quite misguided and uninformed. Based off personal experience, as well as recent sciencific studies, it seems they have the potential to bring about much good. I suppose my main concern is that most people aren't interested, at this point in time, in having their perspective and worldviews challenged in the way that serious, introspective use tends to do.

Just to clarify, I'm talking about special occasion, standard dose usage. I don't have any knowledge about the effects or safety of micro-dosing.

Throwaway for obvious reasons.

Re:Microdosing: People taking LSD with breakfast by metaphorm on Monday April 10, 2017 @07:47PM (#14083598)
thank you for your reply. can I ask you a question? why are you using a throwaway account? the reasons aren't obvious to me.
Re:Microdosing: People taking LSD with breakfast by one__day on Tuesday April 11, 2017 @12:01AM (#14084753)
Given the current stigma against even very informed, responsible usage of certain substances, I worry that comments like mine above could potentially have a negative impact on efforts to raise money for a company, found a non-profit, run for local office, etc.

I don't know if I'll be doing things like that in the future, but I don't want to shoot myself in the foot. The internet is sometimes a little too good at holding onto information sometimes :/

Perhaps I'm being overly cautious. It's hard to say.

Re:Microdosing: People taking LSD with breakfast by omarchowdhury on Tuesday April 11, 2017 @02:51AM (#14085440)
I think Steve Jobs and Bill Gates saying they took LSD has you covered.
Re:Microdosing: People taking LSD with breakfast by interfixus on Tuesday April 11, 2017 @12:59AM (#14084991)
Obviously, yes, any activity or lack thereof induces changes in the state of my brain - I am not a closed system, I am part of existence.

But as you seamlessly go on to acknowledge, there are effects, and then there are effects. Some of these effects, I choose to pursue - I read books, I drink coffee, I comment on HN, at times I even think. And some, I choose not to. There is a silly comment further up, about why I would be reading an article on LSD, seeing as I am not in the market myself. I felt like changing my brain-state by banging my head something when I read it. Of course I can take an interest, as I can in almost anything. In fact, I have taken plenty of interest, and here's my point: Nothing - nothing - I have ever read on psychedelic experience has tickled any desire whatsoever to go and try the stuff. I'm sure there is no particular rationality behind one choice or the other. It just doesn't interest me.

As I started out saying, I'm all for anyone's freedom to choose. I actually speak up for lifting of all drug restrictions. Let supermarkets carry the damned stuff, I really am not my brother's keeper. Just leave me out of it. I'm not against as such, I just really, really am not interested.

I do not understand the widespread impulse to prohibit. Likewise, I have no idea why so many users of so many substances have this urgent need to spread the message.

And I see no reason not to part amicably :)

Re:Microdosing: People taking LSD with breakfast by omarchowdhury on Tuesday April 11, 2017 @02:47AM (#14085427)
Psychedelics are a tool. Use them or don't. They do have the potential to open and widen one's mind, and also the opposite. Not all are suited for this kind of tool, or even for mind exploration. They can also be very dangerous, it depends on the mind (what doesn't?).
Re:Microdosing: People taking LSD with breakfast by jungletek on Monday April 10, 2017 @06:21PM (#14083058)
Well said!
Re:Microdosing: People taking LSD with breakfast by snovv_crash on Monday April 10, 2017 @06:10AM (#14077234)
Agreed, it almost comes off as religious proselytizm.
Re:Microdosing: People taking LSD with breakfast by nefitty on Monday April 10, 2017 @04:18AM (#14076847)
Just because your radio came tuned to one station doesn't mean you gotta keep it that way.
Re:Microdosing: People taking LSD with breakfast by kyledrake on Monday April 10, 2017 @04:23AM (#14076859)
Mine just keeps playing Limp Bizkit on loop. Am I using it correctly?
Re:Microdosing: People taking LSD with breakfast by emjoes1 on Monday April 10, 2017 @11:55AM (#14079555)
now that's a bad trip lol
Re:Microdosing: People taking LSD with breakfast by interfixus on Monday April 10, 2017 @04:38AM (#14076907)
Which part in "I'm all for the fredom of anyone to ingest whatever strange concoctions take their fancy" do you not understand?
Re:Microdosing: People taking LSD with breakfast by nefitty on Monday April 10, 2017 @05:23AM (#14077069)
I'm curious as to what brought you to a thread about LSD if sobriety is such an integral part of your identity. Just as you took offense to someone recommending a psychedelic experience, I take offense at your notion that any state of mind besides the standard-issue one is "artificial flavouring." Anyways, I'll carry on with my weirdo ways.
Re:Microdosing: People taking LSD with breakfast by bfuller on Monday April 10, 2017 @10:53AM (#14078954)
I thought the same thing until a close friend of mine lost his mind after taking lsd one time. Maybe not EVERYONE (people with underlying mental issues) should experiment with drugs
Re:Microdosing: People taking LSD with breakfast by omarchowdhury on Tuesday April 11, 2017 @02:53AM (#14085450)
If he lost his mind, what is expressing through his body right now?
Re:Microdosing: People taking LSD with breakfast by dafash on Tuesday April 11, 2017 @10:51PM (#14094345)
While jokes are a good way to deal with tragedy, the reality of being an acid causality is no laughing matter. My life has been over since my first trip over 20 years ago, about to implode
Re:Microdosing: People taking LSD with breakfast by omarchowdhury on Wednesday April 12, 2017 @12:37AM (#14094789)
I wasn't making a joke. So how did LSD affect you?
Re:Microdosing: People taking LSD with breakfast by dafash on Thursday April 20, 2017 @07:52PM (#14161934)
Opens you up to a spiritual realm. I was not prepared for this. I was never the same. My life is basically a failure and I'm on the brink now.
Re:Microdosing: People taking LSD with breakfast by bfuller on Wednesday April 12, 2017 @01:39AM (#14095056)
he recovered but it was a very traumatic time for friends and family
Re:Microdosing: People taking LSD with breakfast by omarchowdhury on Wednesday April 12, 2017 @02:55AM (#14095392)
Ok so he found his mind again, you made it seem like it was lost in infinity.
Re:Microdosing: People taking LSD with breakfast by ziikutv on Monday April 10, 2017 @09:58AM (#14078522)
Psychedelics are unfortunately not for everyone. Some people have experienced permanent psychosis.