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Re:'My Airbnb flat was turned into a pop-up brothel' by bambax on Saturday April 08, 2017 @04:59AM (#14066054)
> they left used condoms, tissues, and empty bottles of wine all over the apartment

No. From the article:

> I found used condom wrappers under the bed, I found the bin was overflowing with tissues and condoms.

Not sure what "overflowing" means exactly in this context, but you can't read in the article that there were used condoms all over the apartment.

A condom wrapper is just a piece of clean plastic, very different from a used condom.

Also, what's the difference when people are having sex in your bed, whether they're married, friends, or engaged in pay-for-sex?

Re:'My Airbnb flat was turned into a pop-up brothel' by johnchristopher on Saturday April 08, 2017 @06:57AM (#14066345)
> Also, what's the difference when people are having sex in your bed, whether they're married, friends, or engaged in pay-for-sex?

In the grand scheme of things there isn't but I suppose the plaintiff worried about being criminally associated with unlawful behaviour.

People aren't machines, they have feelings and sometimes they project those on their belongings. I consider it normal to feel something upon learning you have been deceived by people not coming upfront about what they really were going to use your home for.

I believe this has nothing to do with one's stance on prostitution.

Re:'My Airbnb flat was turned into a pop-up brothel' by pharrlax on Saturday April 08, 2017 @07:28AM (#14066439)
>criminally associated with unlawful behaviour

This is a crime?

If a prostitute brings a john back to a hotel room, the police can arrest the hotel owner?

Re:'My Airbnb flat was turned into a pop-up brothel' by protomyth on Saturday April 08, 2017 @07:35AM (#14066458)
Hotels have legal protections, Airbnb frequently violates the rules and I wouldn't want to be the person caught in the middle when a local prosecutor wants to make that point.
Re:'My Airbnb flat was turned into a pop-up brothel' by johnchristopher on Saturday April 08, 2017 @08:36AM (#14066614)
I don't know about UK laws but where I live you would be suspected of helping and being active in a prostitution ring.

But you are misquoting me a little bit.

Re:'My Airbnb flat was turned into a pop-up brothel' by foldr on Saturday April 08, 2017 @01:50PM (#14068052)
>I don't know about UK laws

Probably best not to comment then?

This thread is already full of people making the inaccurate assumption that prostitution is illegal in the UK.

Re:'My Airbnb flat was turned into a pop-up brothel' by johnchristopher on Saturday April 08, 2017 @02:11PM (#14068163)
> >I don't know about UK laws

> Probably best not to comment then?

Quite the contrary.

Re:'My Airbnb flat was turned into a pop-up brothel' by dragonwriter on Saturday April 08, 2017 @11:27AM (#14067369)
> This is a crime?

Yes, most places where either prostitution or brothel-keeping is a crime, the owner of a property used in it is potentially (mental state is an issue) committing a crime as well.

> If a prostitute brings a john back to a hotel room, the police can arrest the hotel owner?

In the US, Aside from that risk (which is real but attenuated by the low probability of a conviction because of the high criminal burden of proof) prostitution-related offenses are second only to drug-related offenses in the eagerness of law enforcement to use civil asset forfeiture against properties, including real property, used in the offense.

For a regular commercial hotel, law enforcement would probably just use the possibility of such action as one among many tools to get the owner to actively cooperate with law enforcement, and it probably wouldn't get to actual seizure in a normal case.

Whether similar technically noncriminal consequences associated with criminal activity apply to this situation (in the UK), I'm not sure, though I wouldn't be surprised.

Re:'My Airbnb flat was turned into a pop-up brothel' by DanieI on Saturday April 08, 2017 @02:55PM (#14068367)
There have been cases in the US where a hotel gets a bad reputation mostly because it's in a bad area and the police use civil asset forfeiture to take the property away from the owner.
Re:'My Airbnb flat was turned into a pop-up brothel' by smsm42 on Saturday April 08, 2017 @10:14AM (#14067001)
I found the "overflowing" part a bit strange - either they had a particularly tiny bin, or that was a helluva party and they actually did a decent job cleaning it up then. Or the owner slightly exaggerated - which I find understandable, cleaning up those disgusting things is no fun. But doesn't Airbnb allow to charge for that? I'm pretty sure I've been charged cleanup fees even though I never left a mess in Airbnb apt.
Re:'My Airbnb flat was turned into a pop-up brothel' by uranusjr on Saturday April 08, 2017 @03:22PM (#14068522)
AFAIK cleaning fees are upfront. I host on Airbnb and have never seen an option to charge extra for the mess left behind by guests.