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Re:Marc Andreessen: “Take the Ego Out of Ideas” by nostrademons on Friday April 07, 2017 @02:48PM (#14062449)
So I'd agree about taking the hero worship out of SV. The history of SV is one of successive technology waves, each of which certain people happen to spot & ride first, and then because they make a lot of money on those waves, everybody else idolizes them. And then the next wave happens and it's inevitably someone else who spots them and rides them, and suddenly we all have new heroes.

But when it comes to building a society that benefits everyone - how? That's always the question. Pretty much everyone agrees that it's a good goal, but when it comes down to figuring out "What would peoples' lives look like in a society that benefits everyone", nobody agrees.

Re:Marc Andreessen: “Take the Ego Out of Ideas” by zepto on Friday April 07, 2017 @03:35PM (#14062870)
Right - so this is actually a hard problem worth solving, unlike many of the problems that SV solves.

Let's acknowledge that and stop treating these people like Heroes because they got rich.

Re:Marc Andreessen: “Take the Ego Out of Ideas” by throwaway91111 on Friday April 07, 2017 @03:24PM (#14062780)
Wealth distribution is a hard problem, but it is a MASSIVE problem that most productivity gains flow to a subset of society.
Re:Marc Andreessen: “Take the Ego Out of Ideas” by petra on Friday April 07, 2017 @03:39PM (#14062903)
Leaving aside disagreements by people(who a lot of them are politically motivated and maybe not the result of deep thinking and rational thought or aiming to benefit everyone), doesn't the research tells us about what interventions benefit everybody ?

For example, that socialized medicine is the better method to reach that goal ?

Re:Marc Andreessen: “Take the Ego Out of Ideas” by SolaceQuantum on Friday April 07, 2017 @04:13PM (#14063146)
The difficulty with this is also convincing people that the research is valid and itself not politically motivated/without rational thought. As much as I would like research on what benefits societies in general (sociology?) to feed into how social policies are generated, I feel that there is also significant questioning on the validity of the research and how such research is conducted. Given that there are no real ways to fully account for all variables in the scope of this study, there may always be the argument that such research is shoddy and can't be replicated.

(I'm not actually arguing that such science is shoddy, only that the perception that they are shoddy and invalid is a strong disincentive to listen to any research on this matter. It's actually really disheartening to me that this is the case.)