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Re:New York City bans employers from asking potential worker... by VT_Drew on Friday April 07, 2017 @11:20AM (#14060418)
>Generally, in price negotiations it is advantageous to name a number first.

This is absolutely 100% wrong. In price negotiations you will almost always fair better if you force the other party to bring up a number first.

Re:New York City bans employers from asking potential worker... by louisswiss on Friday April 07, 2017 @11:26AM (#14060471)
Source?

There is a large body of research which disagrees with you...

Oechssler, Jörg; Roider, Andreas; Schmitz, Patrick W. (2009). "Cognitive abilities and behavioral biases". Journal of Economic Behavior & Organization. 72 (1): 147–152. doi:10.1016/j.jebo.2009.04.018. Jump up ^ Orr, D. & Guthrie, C. (2005). "Anchoring, information, expertise, and negotiation: New insights from meta-analysis". Ohio St. J. Disp. Resol., 597, 21. SSRN 900152 Jump up ^ Kristensen, Henrik; Gärling, Tommy (1997). "The Effects of Anchor Points and Reference Points on Negotiation Process and Outcome". Organizational Behavior and Human Decision Processes. 71 (1): 85–94. doi:10.1006/obhd.1997.2713.

(edit as I can't reply to the child comment: Yes, you're right of course. Put it down to a mix of multitasking, iphone browser and university-instilled fear of using Wikipedia as a source)

Re:New York City bans employers from asking potential worker... by VT_Drew on Monday April 10, 2017 @03:27PM (#14081763)
Source right here: http://www.kalzumeus.com/2012/01/23/salary-negotiation/ (and it isn't a wikipedia article)
Re:New York City bans employers from asking potential worker... by always_good on Friday April 07, 2017 @11:59AM (#14060766)
Citation soup doesn't really add anything to a discussion.

Why not link to the Wiki article you copied the sources from? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anchoring

Re:New York City bans employers from asking potential worker... by enraged_camel on Friday April 07, 2017 @11:46AM (#14060634)
Exactly. Whoever names a number first puts themselves at a significant disadvantage.
Re:New York City bans employers from asking potential worker... by sqeaky on Friday April 07, 2017 @02:46PM (#14062434)
Why do people, yourself included, insist on taking simple sides on complex issues?

There is no one size fits all to negotiations, there are simply too many. I would be hesitant to even apply some kind of 80/20 rule here. There are many kinds of negotiations and not all follow the same pattern, even if all of them in one person's experience have.

I have succeeded when demanding they present a number and when presenting a number. I think there are other important things in negotiations like how numbers are presented and what else is being exchanged, but I do not have good sources for this last bit outside my own experience.

Re:New York City bans employers from asking potential worker... by enraged_camel on Friday April 07, 2017 @04:10PM (#14063120)
>>I have succeeded when demanding they present a number and when presenting a number.

You can do this if you have a lot of leverage. But if you don't -- and most job seekers don't -- then giving a number first will put you at a disadvantage because it reveals how much you think you are worth and simply gives the other side a starting point from which to bring down the price.

Re:New York City bans employers from asking potential worker... by raarts on Saturday April 08, 2017 @05:43AM (#14066181)
So if you make the other party go first they will come up with a very low number forcing you to put effort into talking it up. And that is better because??