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Re:New York City bans employers from asking potential worker... by sqeaky on Friday April 07, 2017 @02:46PM (#14062434)
Why do people, yourself included, insist on taking simple sides on complex issues?

There is no one size fits all to negotiations, there are simply too many. I would be hesitant to even apply some kind of 80/20 rule here. There are many kinds of negotiations and not all follow the same pattern, even if all of them in one person's experience have.

I have succeeded when demanding they present a number and when presenting a number. I think there are other important things in negotiations like how numbers are presented and what else is being exchanged, but I do not have good sources for this last bit outside my own experience.

Re:New York City bans employers from asking potential worker... by enraged_camel on Friday April 07, 2017 @04:10PM (#14063120)
>>I have succeeded when demanding they present a number and when presenting a number.

You can do this if you have a lot of leverage. But if you don't -- and most job seekers don't -- then giving a number first will put you at a disadvantage because it reveals how much you think you are worth and simply gives the other side a starting point from which to bring down the price.

Re:New York City bans employers from asking potential worker... by raarts on Saturday April 08, 2017 @05:43AM (#14066181)
So if you make the other party go first they will come up with a very low number forcing you to put effort into talking it up. And that is better because??