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Re:Dr John Goodenough’s story suggests some people become mo... by sol_remmy on Friday April 07, 2017 @10:03AM (#14059681)
Here are some things that decline with age: - Grip strength - Sperm count in men - Sperm quality in men - Fertility in women (even before menopause) - Skin elasticity - Eyesight - Muscle definition - Aerobic capacity - Wound healing rate - Hair growth rate - Sleep quality & duration - Testosterone levels - Thermal adaption to changes in temperature

It appears to me that every bodily system slowly degrades as you age. Care to site any scientific studies showing that intelligence does not decline with age? That is a surprising claim to make.

Re:Dr John Goodenough’s story suggests some people become mo... by tannhauser23 on Friday April 07, 2017 @11:33AM (#14060533)
Read the article? Goodenough credits his old age productivity to the fact that he's been able to think about the same problem for decades, and that he's been able to learn about different fields in sufficient depth that he can find new connections between them.

All the stuff you mention, you can measure. How do you measure intelligence? The kind of intelligence/wisdom that leads to making new scientific discoveries?

I will posit that raw intellectual horsepower might decline with age (and even then, what the hell is this thing and how would we measure it?), but it's also clear to me that decades of accumulated wisdom and study can increase the likelihood of making a new discovery.

Re:Dr John Goodenough’s story suggests some people become mo... by erikpukinskis on Friday April 07, 2017 @12:59PM (#14061392)
Intelligence is not a physical property, it's an information property. It's built out of time, not any physical stuff. It's software, not hardware. And increases in intelligence also increase the efficiency with which the agent gathers information... so even if the sensory bandwidth of the input devices is declining, the perceptual bandwidth can be increasing.

Of course eventually you start running up against mechanical limits and you decline. But that peak is much later than the peak in sensory bandwidth.

Re:Dr John Goodenough’s story suggests some people become mo... by giardini on Friday April 07, 2017 @10:40AM (#14060006)
sol_remmy says:>"It appears to me that every bodily system slowly degrades as you age. Care to site any scientific studies showing that intelligence does not decline with age? That is a surprising claim to make."

Studies show that older people are smarter. Despite your apparent youth, I'm fairly certain you can find the relevant studies.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluid_and_crystallized_intelli... :

"In psychology, fluid and crystallized intelligence are factors of general intelligence, originally identified by Raymond Cattell."

Fluid intelligence peaks around 18 years of age, then declines.

Crystallized intelligence is your accumulation of knowledge and skill. It increases until age 65 then slowly declines.

Re:Dr John Goodenough’s story suggests some people become mo... by brlewis on Friday April 07, 2017 @02:29PM (#14062293)
Crystallized intelligence is your accumulation of knowledge and skill. It increases until age 65 then slowly declines.

Readers should be careful not to interpret this as meaning you're washed up at age 66. It means you're still close to your peak.

Re:Dr John Goodenough’s story suggests some people become mo... by hawaiianbrah on Friday April 07, 2017 @10:20AM (#14059827)
Yeah. This quora answer seems to cite some evidence to back up your implication: https://www.quora.com/Intelligence-and-Genetics-Can-does-IQ-...
Re:Dr John Goodenough’s story suggests some people become mo... by _dps on Friday April 07, 2017 @03:45PM (#14062955)
In intellectual and creative work, the mind is not just hardware but also software and data. It's entirely plausible that the software gets better fast enough (with the right life experiences) to dominate the hardware getting worse with age.
Re:Dr John Goodenough’s story suggests some people become mo... by oh_sigh on Friday April 07, 2017 @05:44PM (#14063740)
Even if the brain starts to decline, you still have the accumulated knowledge which takes a while to lose.

If peak physical condition was correlated with peak intelligence, we would expect 17-18 year olds to be making major changes in our world