This must be highly subjective, because for me, 65" 4k tv 10' away is like night and day to me compared to 1080p

There's no difference side-by-side between 1080p and 4K resolution if you're 5ft or further away from the TV[1], all else being equal.

However, all else is rarely equal, and 4K TVs now have lots of other features and technology that make them just better (prettier) buys in general.

[1] http://s3.carltonbale.com/resolution_chart.html

> A person with 20/20 vision

I'm honestly wondering if I'm an outlier and may have better than 20/20 vision. I would think it's pretty rare, but I have had people comment on my vision before. I work on a 17" 4k laptop screen with tiny text no prob.

Charts like this always get brought up, but I'm not sure there is much rigor in creating them.

At least with the 4k OLEDs, you are also getting HDR, way better contrast ratio, better colors, etc. So, you'll notice that, even if you don't notice the resolution difference.

I am excited to see Xbox support HDR. I just hate to see all of this extra hardware dedicated to resolution, when there are so many things that it could be put to.

The best 'gaming investment' I ever made was to take 2000 bucks and instead of building a new dynamite pc, I bought one of the best 1080p plasmas you could buy 3 years ago, and a ps4. I haven't looked back.

Consoles have come a long way, and the visual fidelity of a truly great quality display is a much better investment than a machine that can power a mediocre display at higher resolutions.

This is coming from someone who was gaming on ultra on 1440p for 5 years before switching back to consoles. It feels good to be back on the couch.

> I hope this is more than just putting out 4k games. Most people don't have 4k TVs, and, very importantly, for those that do, most don't have a big enough one for how far away they sit.

And don't have the bandwidth to download many gigabytes of forced game updates.