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Re:Udacity spins out its self-driving car business as Voyage by visarga on Thursday April 06, 2017 @01:48AM (#14048247)
> Whenever I speak to laypeople about self driving cars their mind immediately shoots to the 1 million+ ways that things can go terribly wrong, or even slightly wrong.

When I raved about self driving cars to my wife, she said to me: look, Google Maps is messing up on a continuous basis (GPS errors, software errors, bad routes, mapping inconsistencies, underestimated ETA). If they can't make a decent GPS app, how could they make a self driving car?

I had no way to counter that. It's true, GPS is an old tech purposefully dumbed down for non-military applications. But how can we convince people of progress when it is so lacking?

Re:Udacity spins out its self-driving car business as Voyage by bitwiseand on Thursday April 06, 2017 @02:49AM (#14048477)
A self-driving car, as proposed by Waymo and many others, in no way relies just on GPS. These beasts have fusion of many sensors with built in redundancy.

Technology improves and evolves. If it didn't you wouldn't be so reliant on Google Maps. We convince people of progress by a safe track record. Google maps may fail occasionally but more often than not it gets you to your destination at the estimated time.

Yes self-driving cars can't be "more often than not" safe. But starting with smaller areas and showing the difference it makes on people's lives and the environment can be a good start.

Re:Udacity spins out its self-driving car business as Voyage by riffraff on Thursday April 06, 2017 @02:22AM (#14048368)
regarding GPS errors, is it GPS which is the issue, or just phones with sub-par sensors and set ups?

I ask this cause my wife's previous phone had consistently crappy GPS performance, losing satellite connection very often, getting stuck etc.

I never had such issues with mine, nor with her new one.

Re:Udacity spins out its self-driving car business as Voyage by yanma on Thursday April 06, 2017 @09:59AM (#14050528)
Sensors quality does have something to do with it, but regardless, you won't be able to get the accuracy and consistency from GPS you need for localizing a self driving vehicle.

Unless you get a DGPS unit (super expensive and require 3k subcription from satellites) you get north of 1m accuracy.