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Re:Growing Ubuntu for Cloud and IoT, Rather Than Phone and C... by jimmies on Wednesday April 05, 2017 @01:53PM (#14044056)
I cannot wait for Unity to die, and now it does.

I was not very happy when they decided to make Unity mac-like by moving the menu to the top bar. It has to be the most idiotic decision around for anyone who has multiple monitors. Even with a single monitor, it is a pain in the ass to move the mouse all the way to the top left corner for the menu to appear, and then orienting myself with the items presented.

Re:Growing Ubuntu for Cloud and IoT, Rather Than Phone and C... by unethical_ban on Wednesday April 05, 2017 @05:52PM (#14045982)
Makes sense. Eyes are closer to the top of a screen than the bottom. Side placement of taskbar makes better use of widescreen space.

It's certainly not perfect and I had some complaints with it (I like window-local menus), but they didn't make the decisions just because.

Re:Growing Ubuntu for Cloud and IoT, Rather Than Phone and C... by pkd on Wednesday April 05, 2017 @02:08PM (#14044209)
You could always use keyboard shortcuts to access the menu. Unity also let you search through the menu items with the Alt key - no manual navigation necessary.

I thought that integrated menus are a great idea - even Apple does it. It saves vertical space and looks "at one" with the rest of the system.

Re:Growing Ubuntu for Cloud and IoT, Rather Than Phone and C... by vrutkovs on Wednesday April 05, 2017 @02:28PM (#14044376)
GNOME has solved in a radical way by simplifying menus, so you need neither search nor frequent mouse/keyboard navigation.

Honestly 'even Apple does it' is a poor argument. If global menu would be a really good and generally accepted idea we'd see it implemented in GNOME and KDE (via extensions at least).

Re:Growing Ubuntu for Cloud and IoT, Rather Than Phone and C... by GraemeLion on Wednesday April 05, 2017 @04:12PM (#14045186)
https://vizzzion.org/blog/2016/10/plasmas-road-ahead/ Global Menu being implemented in KDE 5.9.
Re:Growing Ubuntu for Cloud and IoT, Rather Than Phone and C... by jimmies on Wednesday April 05, 2017 @06:04PM (#14046065)
I don't mind the principles of it -- and I don't mind it in macOS. At least the menu is always there, the problem with unity is that it is hidden and will slowly appear when you hover the mouse on top. It's really hard to aim for what I want when I actually have to access a function on the menu.

I am using KDE on anything I can, and I have no problem with them doing things like the global menu. KDE tends to get things right to my taste.

Re:Growing Ubuntu for Cloud and IoT, Rather Than Phone and C... by xentronium on Thursday April 06, 2017 @12:38PM (#14052147)
There is a setting for menu being always on.
Re:Growing Ubuntu for Cloud and IoT, Rather Than Phone and C... by mikewhy on Wednesday April 05, 2017 @05:05PM (#14045621)
That's great, but not all apps will be able to trim down their menu items. Being able to quickly search all the entries, like in macos / Unity, is a huge help for new users.